Why....this is really starting to annoy me.

[C.Brutail]

I experienced a lot jitter today too, on every server. Maybe it's the same for me

[KadaverJack]

Now the question is, why are out of order packets not counted as lost packets?
They are useless, that's for sure, the players' positions are already updated when they're received.

Because they are not totally useless afaik. The can still contain information like chat messages, that would be resend by the server if those packets are marked as lost.

[GreEn`mArine]

Oh yeah, I like it when my chat messages take up to 2-3 seconds to appear (thats because actually only my upstream is affectedby bad performance/PL).

[Urmel]

Thanks for the explanation SavageX, you gave me the missing link

Seems to be an epidemic situation.... dang! Anyway, what can we do about it? How do other games solve those problems? Any ideas?

[morfar]

1. There is not much Alientrap can do about the engine. Since it's probably only LordHavoc that understand the netcode.

2. Alientrap can optimize the QC code. And as I understand it, the QC code is a nightmare to de-mess. But it should be done sometime!

I don't know which one of these is the biggest problem. It should be investigated.