Let's did it

[danfPeter]

Hi,

I read somewhere in this forum you need some ideas how to spread or announce Nexuiz.
And we all know (like it or not), that Ubuntu is one of the largest distributions.
So I have written a guide on http://ubuntuguide.org how to install Nexuiz on Ubuntu. I had to rip of some things from the Nex - homepage, I hope this is OK.
http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy ... match_game
(Is it true that there is no more nexuiz-linux.sh script?)

Please feel free to correct it if there is a mistake.

[tChr]

great initiative.. but isnt nexuiz in the ubuntu repositories?

[danfPeter]

I don't know, I'm not using ubuntu. A friend told me yesterday that it isn't in the repositories.
It is in the debian unstable repos, but only in a older version 2.2.1.

[esteel]

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Nexuiz
But yeah as ubuntu uses debian packages i think they are slightly outdated.

[Vendor]

In 6.10 (Edgy):

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ian@konqi:~$ apt-cache show nexuiz | grep Version
Version: 2.0-1


Quite badly out-of date, and in 7.04 (Fesity):

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ian@testing:~$ apt-cache show nexuiz | grep Version
Version: 2.2.1-1


Still out of date. Perhaps the answer is to create an Nexuiz-specific repository for Ubuntu/Debian - afaics the Debian and Ubuntu debs should be the same. However the process for installing is fairly straightforward - just unzip and you are good to go. Perhaps the answer would be for the Debian games team (http://wiki.debian.org/Games/Development) to replace their deb with a simple installer/updater (similar to flashplugin-nonfree) which downloads the actual up-to-date content from sourceforge - although I suspect there would be policy issues for them with that, so maybe the idea of a community repository makes the most sense. Ubuntu Backports I know won't touch Nexuiz.

[:)]

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Nexuiz

I've been trying to keep that page updated, so please let me know if anyone sees any errors.

Ubuntu Backports I know won't touch Nexuiz.

http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper-backp ... mes/nexuiz

[danfPeter]

One more thing, I have seen that you offer a extra nexuiz-sound package.
Would it be possible to offer the standard map pack also per repositories?

[KadaverJack]

(Is it true that there is no more nexuiz-linux.sh script?)

there are 2 seperate shell scripts now: nexuiz-linux-glx.sh & nexuiz-linux-sdl.sh (the old script always used the sdl binary)

One more thing, I have seen that you offer a extra nexuiz-sound package.

That's only the music (which almost never changes and therefore doen't need to be updated, which saves time & bandwidth)

Would it be possible to offer the standard map pack also per repositories?

The ubuntu packages are just slightly modified versions of Fuddl's debian packages and Fuddl has little interest in maintaining a package of those maps (because each map has a different license, which makes a proper copyright file quite a mess...).

[esteel]

(Is it true that there is no more nexuiz-linux.sh script?)

there are 2 seperate shell scripts now: nexuiz-linux-glx.sh & nexuiz-linux-sdl.sh (the old script always used the sdl binary)

For 'our' zip file thats true, but the debian (and i guess ubuntu) packages just have a single script /usr/games/nexuiz and i think they also only provide the sdl binary in /usr/lib/games/nexuiz/nexuiz.bin.

[Vendor]

Ubuntu Backports I know won't touch Nexuiz.

http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper-backp ... mes/nexuiz

To clarify - they won't touch the upstream packages from the developers, just backporting from "current development version" to "current stable release". This is the package auto-synced from Debian during the first couple of months in the development cycle: the Nexuiz 2.0 that is in dapper-backports was backported from edgy in (roughly) November last year, and was outdated at that time. The cycle would be:

1. Debian Games Team has a slightly-out-of date version in their repos.
2. A bit of time passes and Ubuntu automatically uploads the Debian package during the first couple of months of the six-month dev cycle, and applies the standard ubuntu patches.
3. This old version is now frozen, maybe gets backported to previous release.
4. Another three or four months passes in Ubuntu release development, no further changes to the frozen version are likely to happen, as Nexuiz is not a "main" package.
5. Stable release comes out, with a version 4-8 months old - and no further updates will happen (although backports might copy-and-paste the slightly-less-outdated packages from the next development version). Backports team hasn't bothered with backporting the feisty (2.2.1) version into edgy, because it is already outdated. Feisty will almost certainly release with this old version in April 2007.

This pattern is intended to give a good trade-off between having reasonably up-to-date packages and having packages that have been "polished" to make them reliable, and works very well for 85% of the software, is ok for another 10%, and falls down for maybe 5% of the software that is under rapid and radical development. Nexuiz falls into this category.

That is why the packages supplied for Nexuiz are so good for many linux users - you just unzip them anywhere and run the launcher.

I'll shut up now before everyone gets too bored!