[Video] How to play Key Hunt

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[Video] How to play Key Hunt

Postby divVerent » Thu May 24, 2007 5:59 am

http://hector.rbi.informatik.uni-frankf ... 480-hi.avi (DivX, high quality, 97MB)
http://hector.rbi.informatik.uni-frankf ... 80-med.avi (DivX, medium quality, 60MB)
http://hector.rbi.informatik.uni-frankf ... 240-lo.avi (DivX, low quality, 23MB)
http://hector.rbi.informatik.uni-frankf ... -mpeg2.mpg (MPEG-2, medium quality, 64MB)
http://hector.rbi.informatik.uni-frankf ... -mpeg1.mpg (MPEG-1, low quality, 39MB)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiPBT8948BA (YouTube, 11MB, for those who don't have a DivX player but have Flash, extra low quality)
http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid= ... 0157599702 (Google video, 28MB, Flash based too but allows AVI download, DivX, low quality)

To play the DivX AVIs, use one of:

VLC: http://www.videolan.org/
MPlayer: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/
ffdshow: http://ffdshow-tryout.sourceforge.net/

The MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 video should play without additional software.

And yes, there is a decoding error somewhere. Just ignore it... I borrowed the notebook where I made it, I can't edit it any more. And yes, it does reek of a certain movie editing application... it's the one I ended up with after trying about 10 other free (as in beer) apps that either crash all the time (Cinelerra, take this), are awfully slow (Cinelerra, take this too!), first convert the input data to their own format and losing quite much quality while doing that (iMovie and anything else there seems to be for OS X, take this), or for some reason don't like the input data, no matter to what I encode it (Avid, take this).

If anyone can recommend a good video editing app that runs on Linux, post it here.

Basically, the video should show quite obviously that one has to get all of the keys or meet with team mates who have the others... but the main focus is behavior while playing, like, following the RUN HERE sign, always going to where action is, and not giving up if you lost a key, you can still get it back (that was an interesting round on MMQ3).

Special thanks to XENO THE BLIND for sending in his demo file, BTW!

NOTE: made a new encode since I got Windows Media Encoder work the way I want. Now the files have generally higher quality; the medium one is at the same level as the previously "high" one, though, but a bit smaller. Also, the new youtube link no longer contains "w8rez" :P
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Re: [Video] How to play Key Hunt

Postby Gut_Eater » Thu May 24, 2007 7:15 am

divVerent wrote:
If anyone can recommend a good video editing app that runs on Linux, post it here.


Video editing on Linux is not a satisfiable matter.

You can use mainactor by mainconcept. There are packets for Suse and Ubuntu. You can get a demo here: http://www.mainactor.de/
But the full version costs 199 EUR iirc. If you already have a key for the windows version, you can use the key for linux, too. ;)
Nonetheless it is the best piece of video-editing-software you can get for linux at this time.

Another program is kdenlive. http://kdenlive.org/
It is in alpha or beta stadium, but for simple projects quite usable. It should not take a long time until the next version (0.5) will be released. You should have your radar on this one. I think in some time this will be the #1 editing software on linux.

As i said, it is not satisfiable.
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Postby divVerent » Thu May 24, 2007 8:13 am

BTW, why does the youtube link contain "w8rez"?

Oh, and I actually have tried kdenlive... it was in the crashing category. But, it's early beta...
1. Open Notepad
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You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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Postby divVerent » Thu May 24, 2007 10:55 am

I just found out why Windows Movie Maker didn't accept the profile - I checked "same as input" for the resolution. When I explicitly specify 640x480 in that box, it works. So today, I think I'll try to re-encode that video in a better quality at 80MB. The small version however should not need a re-encoding...
1. Open Notepad
2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
3. Save
4. Open the file in Notepad again

You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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Postby Strahlemann » Thu May 24, 2007 11:53 am

An explanation for the different colors that a "Key Carrier" can have would have been good imo.
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Postby melk » Thu May 24, 2007 12:08 pm

first convert the input data to their own format and losing quite much quality while doing that (iMovie and anything else there seems to be for OS X, take this)


What was the input data?
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Postby divVerent » Thu May 24, 2007 12:11 pm

DP captures to I420 AVI, but as I don't have the hard drive space for all that, I converted it to MPEG-4/PCM AVI, where the MPEG-4 has a constant quantizer of 2.
1. Open Notepad
2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
3. Save
4. Open the file in Notepad again

You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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Postby Shoe » Thu May 24, 2007 7:59 pm

I've done a lot of major editing with Cinelerra without and trouble of it crashing or being exceptionally slow. And even when it does occasionally crash, it's very good about keeping autosaves recent. So I dunno.
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Postby divVerent » Thu May 24, 2007 8:20 pm

Depends on the system

At home - 1GB RAM, Athlon 64 3700+, Ubuntu x86_64 - it crashes when trying to import video files. I suppose this Ubuntu build is just a bad one, but I can't get it compiled from source either... actually, when trying to compile, I get "relocation R_X86_64_32 against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC" but as far as I see, the gcc lines do specify -fPIC - maybe some didn't. When I instead try to compile with --disable-shared --enable-static, I get a nice statically built cinelerra binary - which then doesn't find its GUI theme because it's build as a static library too and installed to IIRC /usr/local/share/lib/cinelerra/suv.a.

At university - 2GB RAM, Pentium D 2.8GHz Dualcore, Fedora Core 6 x86_64 - it works, but is awfully slow (import one AVI, play it back, and it plays at about 4fps without even having transitions).

But as this Fedora package is a 64bit one, that should mean someone has fixed the build script bug in cinelerra... so maybe it's possible to take the patch from the Fedora RPM and compile it with that on Ubuntu.
1. Open Notepad
2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
3. Save
4. Open the file in Notepad again

You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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Postby divVerent » Fri May 25, 2007 7:56 am

New version has been uploaded. Now with the first scene being a bit longer, black background instead of blue one, and better encode.

Also added MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 encodes for Windows and OS X without extra codec/player software.
1. Open Notepad
2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
3. Save
4. Open the file in Notepad again

You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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