Confusion powered by AntiLag™ (or the new netcode?)

[Urmel]

'd like to know, if I'd set my rate 25000 and the server is 20000, would that be better or worse than 10000?

[esteel]

'd like to know, if I'd set my rate 25000 and the server is 20000, would that be better or worse than 10000?

Better, because the server will send up to 20000byes/second to you, aka more info about other players so the others should be less laggy to you.

[nexbender]

Well in the current development version we have raised the rate limit.. we really think that this causes all the problems. Till we provide a new version server admins should raise sv_maxrate to 20000 and players should raise rate to 20000 too. The server has the most control in this, the client can just limit it further (in case he has a slow connection) so we really need to change both for this to work.

Maybe the players with problems can tell us which servers they mostly use so we can ask the admins to raise sv_maxrate so you can test this..

BTW the [RBI] and Greens .de servers have a raised rate limit already..

John Galt's servers in Texas. I'll PM him if you don't get see this in a day or so. The problem's so awful I just drop out of matches when I see a couple players flitting in and out of existence - splash damage occurring where it couldn't - hitscans around corners/through portals - the list goes on. It's just unplayable.

Oh, and is there some way of verifying the server's rate when you connect?

[Urmel]

If you're already connected, you can use the command sv_maxrate to veryfy the server's rate (was it that what you wanted to know?)

[KadaverJack]

If you're already connected, you can use the command sv_maxrate to veryfy the server's rate (was it that what you wanted to know?)

That display only your local settings, since sv_maxrate will not be changed by the server.

[Urmel]

So there ain't no way at all to find out how the maxrate on a server is set but talking to the server's admin? Wow, what a crap...

However, iirc the netgraph shows green dots or stripes if maxrate differs too much (referring to LH's submissions)

[nexbender]

I tried cl_movement "0" for a while last night. Seemed to smooth out the movement of the high-pingers (wish nifrek had still been on ) but also re-introduced lag and dropouts into input response. For anyone who hasn't seen me play, I rely on reflex and muscle-memory for movement and aim - so this is a real deal-breaker - same reason I've completely given up on playing on my work laptop. FFS, I have ataxia and peripheral neuropathy - if a game can't keep up with *me*, something is wrong!

Is there anything else I can try? I suppose I can start poking through the netcode again, but it could take me days to figure out something an experienced coder would understand in minutes.

And would an admin kindly move this thread to Support/Boogs?

I'm PM'ing John re his servers sv_maxrate. And I'm going to consider (financially) hosting a server myself.

[John Galt]

Just wanted to add that my servers all run at 20k or 30k maxrate. The bandwidth necessary for that isn't exactly a problem, so I upped it for folks who know how to tweak that.

[AceOfThumbs]

Sorry for being off topic, but have some good tips for peripheral neuropathy.

About a year ago I finished up a huge work project and decided to celebrate with a few drinks and games. I played UT (hadn't discovered Nexuiz) into the wee hours of the morning before weaving my way to bed. The next day I woke up with my left hand asleep. It stayed asleep. IT STAYED ASLEEP!!?? And by asleep, I mean no feeling and I could barely move it. My wrist flopped when I moved my arm. It was sickening.

Well, the local doctor said I might have had a stroke, so off to the hospital and the full round of tests. I now have lovely photos of my brain and chest and carotid artery telling me I am healthy as a horse and $5,000 poorer.

It's what they call a peripheral neuropathy, meaning damage to the nerve going to my hand. The doctor said go to a neurologist. It may take a long time to recover. I'd had enough of doctors, so I researched it myself and found several studies showed large doses of Methylcobalamin (an easily absorbed B12) to be very effective. I took 10mg at a time up to 5 times a day and got my hand back in 2 weeks. No recurring problems.

I still take 5 to 10mg a week since booze and coffee deplete B12 in your body. As a bonus I have found that a chronic back and hip pain are gone now too. It gives you an energy boost as well.

Get some and try it bender. You might start off with 10mg, because it can make you feel edgy until you become accustomed to it. Also, shop around. Prices vary wildly. I get 60 5mg subligual tablets for under $20.

[nexbender]

Sorry for being off topic, but have some good tips for peripheral neuropathy...

Thank you for your concern. In my case, yes, B12s help, but the underlying problem was/is long-term, since I've had Celiac/Sprue my entire life. Malabsorption (and toxins in the blood) over a thirty-year period has destroyed the myelin "insulation" on a lot of nerves and along a lot of big nerve pathways, so while a bit of it is ameliorated by my nutrients regimen, no vitamin can reverse scarring. I take medication to control the muscle spasms and worst of the pain so I can focus, sleep, etc. It sucks something awful, but after a number of years, like anything else, your mind adjusts to it and your body figures out new ways to cope on its own.

BTW, I think you had yourself a case of acute alcoholic neuropathy. It is quite common. Watch that drinking, man! Nevertheless, have one for me, since I can't drink at all!*

* Doesn't mix with meds.

What I wouldn't do for two fingers of Chopin right now.