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Postby esteel » Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:46 pm

GreEn`mArine wrote:I mean, hey, all developers claimed to have fluent gameplay when the choppy movement-fix was not there yet, so I think they are somehow insensible for such things xD

It just means the developers never had those problems and if you can't get the same problems you have a damn hard time to solve them..
Guess you know the feeling as you program yourself :)
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Postby KadaverJack » Tue Apr 04, 2006 4:09 pm

GreEn`mArine wrote:TOP shows different values than PS, so this is not really a accurate way of telling CPU usage anyway

Read 'man ps' and 'man top' and you'll see why...
If you don't find it, here's a hint:
man top wrote: k: %CPU -- CPU usage
The task's share of the elapsed CPU time since the last screen update, expressed as
a percentage of total CPU time. In a true SMP environment, if 'Irix mode' is Off,
top will operate in number of CPUs. You toggle 'Irix/Solaris' modes with the 'I'
interactive command.


man ps wrote:CPU usage is currently expressed as the percentage of time spent running during the entire
lifetime of a process. This is not ideal, and it does not conform to the standards that ps
otherwise conforms to. CPU usage is unlikely to add up to exactly 100%.
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Postby Crashzor » Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:10 pm

to skip al the crap there is no way to fix it.
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Postby esteel » Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:21 pm

Would you please give (the right) people some time before making such staggering posts??
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Postby GreEn`mArine » Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:42 pm

esteel wrote:
GreEn`mArine wrote:I mean, hey, all developers claimed to have fluent gameplay when the choppy movement-fix was not there yet, so I think they are somehow insensible for such things xD

It just means the developers never had those problems and if you can't get the same problems you have a damn hard time to solve them..
Guess you know the feeling as you program yourself :)


Yeah I know what you mean, however, from v1.0 until v1.2 every (!) internet server WAS choppy (for everyone), just more or less (sometimes hardly noticable) strong. And somehow this should have been noticable by developers a bit earlier, but this isn't the point of this discussion anyway so I better shut up now :) .

@Crashzor: Skip all the crap ? Lol, you're pretty polite, eh. However, this thing won't be fixed in a minute, I think it will take a while until the real problem can be found.

I am still thinking that some benchmark-loggin--dedicated-server-versions for people who do have CPU problems would help, but this is best decided by LordHavoc himself
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Postby Crashzor » Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:21 am

it realy simpel i notice the developers talking around it but i don't FUCKING CARE how the system works, i just want it to work right.
So basicly its i was just look for a awaser like:
1. this progamma is not workt out totaly so yeah its normal
or
2. you can fix it downing this this and this.
so just keep it simpel spare me al the "useless" crap.
if i want to know who the system works i gowing to read the source
and basicly using skip the crap to keep it simpel.
it was a simpel you're fucket and were not gowing to help you( just buy a faster cpu ).
So i don't want the total techincal sidetoer ( i'm not a toerist ) so just get to the point and say yes or no.
keep it simpel so us humans also understand the awnser whitout looking up how the total progamma works.
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Postby Urmel » Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:02 am

now isnt he nice :P
uncomfortable
random
mean
embarrassing
limited
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Postby Daedalus » Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:44 am

Crashzor wrote:it realy simpel i notice the developers talking around it but i don't FUCKING CARE how the system works, i just want it to work right.
2. you can fix it downing this this and this.
so just keep it simpel spare me al the "useless" crap.
if i want to know who the system works i gowing to read the source
and basicly using skip the crap to keep it simpel.
it was a simpel you're fucket and were not gowing to help you( just buy a faster cpu ).
So i don't want the total techincal sidetoer ( i'm not a toerist ) so just get to the point and say yes or no.
keep it simpel so us humans also understand the awnser whitout looking up how the total progamma works.
Greeting
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- talking about how the system works is necessary to find a fix

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Postby esteel » Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:52 am

Crashzor i had i very bad day yesterday so the reply from me was actually very polite and i rewrote it several times :)
But i want to make clear to you that the kind of attitute you are showing right now will get you nothing.. This 'Hey i have a problem, i have no idea about it but i need it fixed yesterday' thing is just annoying. People are reading about your problem and everyone that has posted a reply took some time to help.. either with more information, thinking about it or just by finding a solution. As far as i see none of them in directly involved with the engine itself so we need some time till this problem reaches the right persons.

If you read the posts in here you should have noticed that different people have this high cpu usage problem while others do not have it. So i guess the only correct anser right now is 'its this way on your computer currently so you'll have to live with it'.
You can however try one of the newer engines (servers) from here: http://icculus.org/twilight/darkplaces/files/ for example this one http://icculus.org/twilight/darkplaces/ ... 4beta1.zip (currently the latest version). But to be honest i have no idea if it will help. It might even give problems with users that use the 'normal' Nexuiz 1.5. There was some talk about that but i did not follow it too much.. So please test it in case you download and use it.
Once people find time to take a closer look at the problem there might be better answers. Or you can try to go the #DarkPlaces on irc.anynet.org and directly talk to the people that made the engine. BUT PLEASE BE MORE POLITE THERE!!!!!
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Postby Crashzor » Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:28 am

Oke for the record i maby got a litle to pissed of of this problem you're right about dat maby i coud spare a fuw i don't give a shit etc.
but stil i'm used to forums were there is relativly i same anwaser or just a can't bedone right now or just a were working on:
i'm the persoon dat is more happy whit a short post were working on it dat whit a totaly story about what is maby wrong.
te second problem is its not my box so i can't remove think randomly because its the box of a hosting company and if i remove like the webserver the owner wil get a litle bit pissed, because people play good money for there webhosting.
next time i wil look out to not go over the top whit posting,
anyway thnx for the time.
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