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by **dasni** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:46 am

Here's some video footage of the game in action.

http://www.stingygaming.com/game.asp?ID_GAM=NXZ

by **esteel** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:14 pm

The video is a bit small but it look nice. A simple download would be good to have

by **a thing** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:33 am

How ironic, a recording of free software in a proprietary format.

by **obi_wan** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:26 am

@a-thing > you seem to be really sticked with this idea of full-gpl everything...

in this case, a non-GPL format (aka what you are calling "proprietary") doesn't mean that it isn't free.
Most of proprietary formats does provide a free player, so where's the matter ?

I'm doing a nexuiz video... and doing everything with GPL solutions would be really impossible for me. My working tools are not GPL. I bought them, but they really aren't GPL.
And after ? should I stop because of that ???

by **divVerent** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:58 am

in this case, a non-GPL format (aka what you are calling "proprietary") doesn't mean that it isn't free.
Most of proprietary formats does provide a free player, so where's the matter ?

That it's illegal to distribute players that support this format without permission of the patent holders. mplayer and VLC for example are illegal in the US just because of the patents.

by **obi_wan** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:54 pm

i'm using final cut to make videos. I bought a license, and i am allowed to export H264 files for example. And to distribute them. And there are free (and legal) players that allow you to read those files.

Is it illegal for me to distribute H264 videos ???

by **tChr** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:08 pm

obi_wan wrote:i'm using final cut to make videos. I bought a license, and i am allowed to export H264 files for example. And to distribute them. And there are free (and legal) players that allow you to read those files.
Is it illegal for me to distribute H264 videos ???

no

but i guess that was your point.. thanks for backing me up here btw...

by **k0jak** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 2:29 am

h264...as long as obi Gets the quality correct, your in for a ...and i say..AMAZINGLY BETTER thne DivX/XviD quality moviel...at the same/ LESS size then one of them movies,

THe quality in H264/x264 is just...at the moment, Unsurpassable, for same file size.

by **divVerent** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:17 am

k0jak wrote:THe quality in H264/x264 is just...at the moment, Unsurpassable, for same file size.

I'd say Theora is at the same level.

Anyway, which are the free and legal players for H.264? Or is that codec not patented?

by **obi_wan** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:00 am

I'll take a further look at this theora codec, found that i will make some tests.
But it seems that the most used players for reading theora files are VLC and mPlayer... and you say they are illegal

(how bizarre, if they were so illegal, why would they always exist.... ?)

But i really want you to explain me what could be legal from your point of view ?
Another thing i don't understand... : if patent holders don't allow anybody to provide a free player for their codec, how can this codec become known and be used by people ???

Anyway, which are the free and legal players for H.264? Or is that codec not patented?

I think quicktime should be a legal software...

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