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Postby shaggy » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:02 am

divVerent wrote:
Oblivion wrote:Did you know the current logo for Nexuiz is actually the japanese Katakana character for 'Ka'? :wink: [/quit]

Wrong. It's the Japanese kanji character for power, strength.

But they mostly look the same :P


Yeah, I was going to point that out, except I forgot if that was correct so instead of risk being publicly humiliated (again ;)) I avoided it.
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Postby Blµb » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:25 am

"chikara" - ちから - 力 - strength :>
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Postby Taiyo.uk » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:28 am

Nexuiz is Web 2.0 compatible! :D

Nice work, but I agree that it could do with a little theming, to suit the grungy industrial feel of the game.
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Postby Oblivion » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:23 am

I swear z's version is Katakana.

Here's a kanji for strength:

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"tsuyosa"

and the one you mean:

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compared against katakana 'ka'

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I think z used the katakana 'ka'. The kanjii for strength has the intersection roughly in the middle and not in the upper portion. And it's foreshortened. :P
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Postby ai » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:36 am

It doesn't matter where it intersects actually. It all depends on the style you write it in and the font. It's pretty much the handwriting that decides how it looks as we all have different ones. They are pretty much identical, even Japanese people wouldn't be able to figure out which is which just by looking at the character.

Version 1
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Version 2
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Try guessing which is which. :) And yes one is the 'ka' the other 'chikara'.
PS. There's tones of different characters for the same word in Japanese, in this case, chikara is the more known and more frequently used word for strength.
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Postby The mysterious Mr. 4m » Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:28 pm

i'm beginning to think we should rename the game :P

oy this is silly. just like all those wannabe-apostrophes....
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Postby Captain Haddock » Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:43 pm

I got un: "Nexuiz: the party wont stop unless your opponents pants drop."
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Postby [-z-] » Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:14 pm

Perhaps ouns should stop distributing false 'strength' images

http://ouns.wikispaces.com/icons

and the developers should change the 'loading image'

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As for the other comments. The menu font is 'weird' because it will not be a graphic, it is actual text as it's easier for search engines to read / follow and it permits for the easy addition of a category if need be (we'll make the font smaller smarty pants).

As for the 'unbalancedness'... I originally had the sections aligned at the top but your eyes are drawn to the side bar first... and that's not really what we are going for.

If we are targeting people that judge webpages in split seconds, the first thing we want them to see, is the meaning of the site. Why the hell did I just click 'nexuiz.com?' what the heck is this?

"Nexuiz is a free open-source first person shooter that runs on Windows, Linux and OSX."

Ooooooooh! Cool! What does it look like?

"Holy crap, THAT'S NEXUIZ? How did I not hear about this yet?"

:plays video:


Awesome! I want to learn more!

:looks at side bar and main menu:



Just my two cents on observing web users for the past 6 years.
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Postby ai » Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:33 pm

Well, I think having more than just that group of people in mind when creating the site will be useful :P A website should be appealing to as many groups as possible. And yeah, I agree with the shiny look, it doesn't fit here and too much of it looks bad. However, I hear that the new 2.4 menu is somewhat shinish so maybe that design would fit better. But still yet, more industrial look to it (should be doable even with shiy stuff), right now it all reminds me of Apple and their style.

Buttons needs to be remade, in my opinion they look too much like ad buttons, those that sane people never click on. A donate buttons should be suddle but still visible in the corner of the eye, don't wanna seem to desperate :P People hate that.

However, I do like the bit nexuiz chikara logo. Like a trademark.

EDIT: Oh and, what false 'strength' icons on ouns? Those are genuine (yet not official, but genuine).
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Postby [-z-] » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:37 pm

ai wrote:Well, I think having more than just that group of people in mind when creating the site will be useful :P

I'm not disagreeing, I'm defending my reasoning behind the way I laid out the site, perhaps some will gain a new perspective on the design with these notes.

ai wrote:A website should be appealing to as many groups as possible.

I'd have to disagree with this, it should hit the top of the bell curve of your target audience. In Nexuiz' case, I believe it's mostly bored people looking for a free game or classic quake players looking for a good alternative to relive their glory days.

ai wrote:And yeah, I agree with the shiny look, it doesn't fit here and too much of it looks bad. However, I hear that the new 2.4 menu is somewhat shinish so maybe that design would fit better. But still yet, more industrial look to it (should be doable even with shiy stuff), right now it all reminds me of Apple and their style.

Personal preference. I designed it with the new menu system in mind but tried to give it a bit of a 'pop'

ai wrote:Buttons needs to be remade, in my opinion they look too much like ad buttons, those that sane people never click on. A donate buttons should be suddle but still visible in the corner of the eye, don't wanna seem to desperate :P People hate that.

Black on black isn't subtle? Developers is light blue...

Please take time into consideration as well. This website should be appealing to a first time visiting, pitching them whatever product it is you're trying to push, in this case, the game Nexuiz. When they first get there, they will see the movie and figure out what this website is for... they ignore the links on the side mostly, thats fine. Those links on the side are for frequent visitors that are looking to help out, unless of course they came to the site for that particular reason, in which case the 'ads' are relatively easy to locate.

ai wrote:However, I do like the bit nexuiz chikara logo. Like a trademark.

Cool, I like it too

ai wrote:EDIT: Oh and, what false 'strenght' icons on ouns? Those are genuine (yet not official, but genuine).

Oblivion wrote:Did you know the current logo for Nexuiz is actually the japanese Katakana character for 'Ka'?



I'm open to suggestions, but please don't tell me negative things about my work without having a positive solution. I'd appreciate it if you'd cite your sources, pictures of styles you like... links to websites you like... etc.
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