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Postby TVR » Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:24 pm

Psychcf wrote:
ai wrote:
Psychcf wrote:
ai wrote:That's Americans for you. In my eyes they are all stupid and fat. Yes, I know some are nice, but I have so little faith in them so I might as well label the whole country.

Don't make generalizations until you actually know what the hell you're talking about.

I know what I'm talking about, I get most of my information from youtube and wikipedia.

Youtube isn't a valid source, only idiots post videos on there.
In the case of Wikipedia, I'd need to see the article in order to know.


A generalization to discredit a generalization of a moot point, ironic.
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Postby Psychcf » Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:09 pm

ai wrote:I was kidding, I hope you guys understood that.


Ok, It was hard to tell, lol. :lol:
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Postby Barfly » Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:41 pm

i have brought this up on many posts b4.
Its a chat room with a game going on in the background.
And I ASSURE you, its not just people from the U.S.
From what I have sen it's actually both, but Euro players always want to know where you are from etc..
it's a game ffs..
Galts is very bad with this (as are Euro servers) and the sad truth is nothing can be done.
cept pawn the chatters while they are typing, then ya get a typ frag hate.

either play the game ore use a chat program.
This game has gotten worse in the last 3 or 4 months with this problem,
damn CS rejects most likely invho
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Postby John Galt » Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:12 pm

I could, perhaps, bring the player limit down a bit and remove the spectator spots to try to foster less of a "chatty" atmosphere. The Gulch has almost become its own little community with lots of regulars though, I'm not sure what to go for here.

Can't please everyone, of course. Maybe a second, smaller CTF server, "Hard Core Gulch" or somesuch.

Open to ideas...
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Postby Barfly » Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:20 pm

John Galt wrote:I could, perhaps, bring the player limit down a bit and remove the spectator spots to try to foster less of a "chatty" atmosphere. The Gulch has almost become its own little community with lots of regulars though, I'm not sure what to go for here.

Can't please everyone, of course. Maybe a second, smaller CTF server, "Hard Core Gulch" or somesuch.

Open to ideas...


I agree it has become it's own community but it has taken away from gameplay as well

btw
fix the Crylink while you are at it :)

I don't think there is a real answer to this chat problem, I guess it's just something that comes with the popularity of a place where people meet.
"The Gulch" has become the local Starbucks
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Postby nifrek » Sat Aug 09, 2008 5:20 pm

John Galt wrote:Maybe a second, smaller CTF server, "Hard Core Gulch" or somesuch.

Open to ideas...


I like this idea, and in the motd maybe put something that says "No random chat" or I guess probably something less "rude", just a hint that would warn people connecting there that it's place to play a bit more seriously. That way if someone whine about too much chat, he will be right and won't be told to fuck off.

I personally do not dislike the spectator slots, it's cool when you just want to watch when you want to play a map. It's just that sometimes it's unfair for the people stuck as spectators while some players are filling spots and chatting/not really playing. Also, most regular players are very respectful and will understand if someone tells then them that they're doing something wrong and will be happy to resolve the problem. So, yeah I don't see what you could personally do about it, I think it's the players responsibility to act fair. Unfortunately, a lot of them don't give a shit. Some people only think about themselves.

There's one other I'd like to mention (also about people only thinking about themselves) while i've got your attention ;) This morning some guy called the same vote 5 times in like 2 minutes because he wanted a map even tho it was denied every time. He was then kicked by vote, he came back and called the vote again and again. Eventually people gave up and voted yes... then someone called -timelimit -1 right at the start of that map and the match ended :shock: I see that happen a lot.

Maybe putting a higher waiting time between vote calls by the same player would help?

I disagree about kicking/banning people in general, IMO nexuiz needs more ways to "punish" players. Muting/remove right to vote/remove them from a team and lock them as spectators while the remaining time of the map/etc. That would teach them a lesson a lot more than get kicked then come back just to keep doing the same thing over and over because they KNOW it is annoying everyone.
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Postby ai » Sat Aug 09, 2008 5:31 pm

nifrek wrote:Maybe putting a higher waiting time between vote calls by the same player would help?

I disagree about kicking/banning people in general, IMO nexuiz needs more ways to "punish" players. Muting/remove right to vote/remove them from a team and lock them as spectators while the remaining time of the map/etc. That would teach them a lesson a lot more than get kicked then come back just to keep doing the same thing over and over because they KNOW it is annoying everyone.

I actually stand by this. I also want to punish a player more than just kick/ban. Especially remove the ability to vote and mute them would be of great help. Making them a spectator I'm not sure about, but that would help with team-killing on purpose. However, I believe it would be easy to override that, as then that person who got to be a spectator could possibly quit and rejoin and his stats would be reset. However, this may also be the case with the other 'preventing votes and muting' stuff.
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Postby KillaGrunt » Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:25 pm

Yeah that would be a good idea nifrek.
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Postby Mute Print » Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:10 pm

ai wrote:That's Americans for you. In my eyes they are all stupid and fat. Yes, I know some are nice, but I have so little faith in them so I might as well label the whole country.
While I'm tempted to agree, girth and stupidity don't have much to do with how talkative someone is. On the subject at hand, I don't see anything wrong with a friendly chat as long as it doesn't take too much away from the game, but if you're a 14-year-old arguing about God, shut up and take your pseudo-intellectualistic bullshit somewhere else.

I don't think Galt's Gulch is the best place to go for very serious playing, but at the same time you can't pretend it's a public lounge. I know this is a bit hypocritical, as I've gotten in a fair share of lengthy discussions, but they were usually triggered by levels of blatant stupidity I didn't think possible. I hate the Internet.
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Postby Sepelio » Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:43 pm

Mute Print wrote:
ai wrote:That's Americans for you. In my eyes they are all stupid and fat. Yes, I know some are nice, but I have so little faith in them so I might as well label the whole country.
While I'm tempted to agree, girth and stupidity don't have much to do with how talkative someone is. On the subject at hand, I don't see anything wrong with a friendly chat as long as it doesn't take too much away from the game, but if you're a 14-year-old arguing about God, shut up and take your pseudo-intellectualistic bullshit somewhere else.

I don't think Galt's Gulch is the best place to go for very serious playing, but at the same time you can't pretend it's a public lounge. I know this is a bit hypocritical, as I've gotten in a fair share of lengthy discussions, but they were usually triggered by levels of blatant stupidity I didn't think possible. I hate the Internet.


On that note,

http://news.slashdot.org/news/08/08/10/1241218.shtml
Possibly not the worst mapper in the world.

A blog of random pish:
http://xeno.planetnexuiz.com/blog/?author=5
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