A Nexuiz development blog

[shaggy]

I mean I would also like to contribute somehow, but not unless I'm positive my time won't go to waste. I wasted so much of it on pointless projects before and I don't do that anymore. And as long as this is a 'blog' I will never have confidence in this project unless it's almost but complete.

Now I'm not trying to hammer jack you I'm just saying that I don't see the sense in what you said. But I do agree with some of what you have said.

See in my view this is like saying, I'm going to the races to bet on some horses, but I'm not going to bet on anything that could lose. I want to be 100% sure I'll win!

This is what I see those two points to mean.
1. If the horse is sure to win the payoff will be poor.
2. The whole point of going to these places is to take some chances and not be hold off on any bet because the horse may fail.

But it is true if people could see the future and see that what they're going to do will fail they will not do it and that makes 100% sense.

I hope you see what I mean, I'm not trying to start up an argument about a whole new thing I'm just trying to tell you how I understood what you said. Some other person may read it and have a completely different interpretation than mine.

I would just like somewhere that I can get updates and news

[[-z-]]

Right

If you took 2 seconds to read why it failed, you'd see it's because of simple reasons, missed close tags and &'s instead of &. It obviously doesn't dock me points on google.

Consider Nexuiz Ninjaz Beta, final products validate.

Not that I was even calling myself an expert, I was referring to Dokujisan.


Despite my patronizing attitude in my previous post, my words were meant for the benefit of the community. But I suppose we can ignore the issues and continue with business the usual Nexuiz way.

[ai]

@Shaggy: Yeah, I see your point and it's fine by me. I just don't bet anymore, I almost always need to be certain a project will lead somewhere, unless it's something I'm really invested in and love to do. I just go to the races to look at the competition, not bet myself

@Brutail: Your idea is nice and all, but it sounds awfully like a lot of work and that a lot of people need to be there to make it happen. I'm not so sure that is doable. I don't know Xenos or the Ninja community, perhaps there are enough people there to help out. But that kind of project would need lot of management and someone to organize the whole thing (by sacrificing his/her own time), and the thing is that people might help out at first, but after a week or a month it's probably dead again. That's what usually happens, same thing happened with the ladder. Many people signed up and started playing, but soon enough it pretty much died out.
But I truly do wish for your idea to succeed, or something similar.

[[-z-]]

I almost always need to be certain a project will lead somewhere, unless it's something I'm really invested in and love to do.

Like finishing up a nearly complete flag model? That is in the realm of your expertise, is it not? Even if it's not the way everyone wants, it's an improvement over what we currently have. There are plenty of people wanting new flag designs. I think there is more than enough ideas, information, mock-ups and even incomplete models for you to make an artistic decision. I don't understand what you're waiting for, talk is cheap.

@Brutail: Your idea is nice and all, but it sounds awfully like a lot of work and that a lot of people need to be there to make it happen. I'm not so sure that is doable. I don't know Xenos or the Ninja community, perhaps there are enough people there to help out. But that kind of project would need lot of management and someone to organize the whole thing (by sacrificing his/her own time), and the thing is that people might help out at first, but after a week or a month it's probably dead again.

This is what I was referring to with "poor management".

That's what usually happens, same thing happened with the ladder. Many people signed up and started playing, but soon enough it pretty much died out.

I think there were a lot of other issues with the ladder, like the promotion, the application, the design, the clarity, etc.

[ai]

I almost always need to be certain a project will lead somewhere, unless it's something I'm really invested in and love to do.

Like finishing up a nearly complete flag model? That is in the realm of your expertise, is it not?

Not sure what you're getting at but the short version is that yeah, I need more info about the flag concept before, at least I, start to model one. There's nothing stopping other modelers to create that flag though.
That's how paranoid and careful I am about my time. I literally wasted years on projects that didn't lead anywhere in the past and without any compensation. I don't want to throw away more of my time.
I like Nexuiz though and the community so I'm actually considering of creating stuff for this purpose, but my paranoia kicks in.

[[-z-]]

There's nothing stopping other modelers to create that flag though.

Except the knowledge that zuriastrad is lacking to finish and asking for help on?

bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.

You're scared you're going to waste 2 hours to finish a flag model that's a vast improvement over the current one?

[ai]

There's nothing stopping other modelers to create that flag though.

Except the knowledge that zuriastrad is lacking to finish and asking for help on?

bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.

You're scared you're going to waste 2 hours to finish a flag model that's a vast improvement over the current one?

Put up or shut up.

I'm not sure, but I feel you have a problem with me and my ways. Anyway, please don't litter this thread anymore with that and if you've got something to say or feel you need to workout feel free to send me a PM. That way other won't get involved. Or you could start a new thread in the 'Alientrap - General' category about 'ai not letting his time go to waste' or something, I really don't mind.

I'm not gonna respond to anything that doesn't relate to this blog/site idea in this thread from now on.

PS: Morphed is a modeler too, he has created great models before. You could ask him. He's usually on IRC.

[Psychcf]

Right, even if this is true, and with that tantrum of a response rather then a sane argumentative one i doubt it. This is not a technical discussion, field expertise don't enter into it. Sure if/when its time to implement a solution such experience is valuable, or in form of suggesting other options that may be unknown or overlooked so far.

http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/06/march-to-your-own-standard

[C.Brutail]

@Brutail: Your idea is nice and all, but it sounds awfully like a lot of work and that a lot of people need to be there to make it happen. I'm not so sure that is doable.

If all people would think like this, we won't even have Nexuiz
Yes, I have a lot of unfinished projects for myself too (eg. like Noobmaps, I still haven't fogrgotten about that or better yet, Facing Worlds 2008/2009 (!) ) , but I'm sure with a little enhusiasm and a bit of sacrifice, it's managable and doable.
This game is all about sacrificing your free time, if you want to get deeper into it... and who won't like to take part in something, that makes Nexuiz better?

[esteel]

A small joke on the blog SCNR

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