A simple question

[esteel]

Why not MG as startweapon?

Because this is Nexuiz and not Quake 3?

[torus]

I would much prefer an MG starting weapon. It's absurd that the shotgun is the weak starting weapon. Then again, nexuiz is absurd in a lot of ways.

[tZork]

Am i the only one who thinks the shotty is even a tad on the strong side for a starting weapon? i frequently use it even if i have every other weapon too. mg as starter gun is just insane. that thing is what killed the old gods.

[ai]

Oh, the shotgun is, IMO the perfect starting weapon. It can be very powerful and even weak. It depends how well you use it. It can kill enemies with full health and armor easily if you hit. I also use it even if I have all the other weapons, in close combat and as the finishing blow after I weakened the enemy with some other weapon.

[kozak6]

The shotgun strikes me as a particularly excellent starting weapon. It might be a little strong for a starting weapon, but I think it's a good thing.

Close up, it's fairly brutal. It's especially handy for when you respawn next to someone with a 'better' gun and maybe some armor. It prevents the "No fair, I didn't have a gun/good gun" frustration and whining. On the other handed, getting fragged by a recently spawned player can be obnoxious, but getting spawnkilled is worse, I think.

Also, the extreme spread prevents it from being overly powerful.

I think I like having the various weapons strong for their intended use (with a good degree of overlap and without excessive rock-paper-scissors action, though), as opposed to the "crap, moderate, good, KILL-CANNON" weapon hierarchy one sees in some other games.

The MG in its current form is probably too strong for a starting weapon. For a starting weapon, it has way too much range. Even though the secondary is not hitscan anymore, it's can still be used as a surprisingly effective sniper rifle.

If the MG were nerfed a little, and the shotgun made a more rounded weapon, it could work. I don't really see the point, though, and significantly rebalancing two weapons at once would be problematic.

I did always think it would be interesting to have a choice of starting weapon, though. Not any of the current ingame weapons due to balance reasons, but maybe a pistol or a rifle, or maybe a few different types of shotguns...

[esteel]

Just to add that the spread on primary and secondary fire is different.. The secondary combo makes it easier to hit all three shots but has the bigger spread so with a certain distance primary does more damage.

And i also think the shotgun is a good starting weapon. Its not too strong (maybe a tad too strong though) and it has a stronger pickup 'partner' the crylink. The mg has none as the hagar is too different (projectile based and too hard to use with distance) while the mg can counter the nex to a degree and the hagar can not.

[Mirio]

4m : isn't it the crylink in darkzone?

and well.. do not make the MG less powerfull .. but the crylink! duh

theres no MG in dieselpower

[Barfly]

theres no MG in dieselpower

Then why is there ammo?
This should be fixed, and instead of removing the ammo personally I think a MG should be added, the map could use another weapon.

[esteel]

Man.. the crylink is already weakend for the next release.. please test it on some of the svn servers like galts or lazy dog if its ok now..

And as i said, Strahlemann also maps for q3 and wants to make sure his maps also work there. And having an mg ammo around is not like a huge bug is do not really see a reason to remove it.. But adding an MG, why not maybe Strahlemann reads this thread and shed some light on matters

[Barfly]

.

But adding an MG, why not maybe Strahlemann reads this thread and shed some light on matters

Fingers crossed