The Nexuiz Ninjaz - Clearing the Air (complain here)

[C.Brutail]

But seriously guys, do we need this bullshit going on? I have to puke.
Pretty please, everybody calm down, we're all friends here. It's sure, we see things things differently, but why should we hate eachother because of that?

Games aren't "just games", they display how we think.

Huge -1 from me! This is just a game, entertainment for me. Making maps entertains me, playing them entertains me chatting with those who I play with on the forums or irc entertains me. But nothing more.
Oh wait, not true, THIS NOT A GAME FOR ME! It's the community, the friends I've gained. THAT'S what Nexuiz means for me. And that I can entertain others with my work.
And this might be the point you've actually missed in the past time -z- . For me, Nexuiz was some kinda "clipper" that connected unknown people is some way: we've loved FPS-es, open source stuff. In the beginning, there were no selfishness at all. No n00bs, no pr0s, nobody was more or less. Some of us actually started to develop the game, the others stayed only to play it. But I don't have any bad feelings for those, who only play the game, and don't give anything. Some of us left the game in the meantime, new ones have come. But nowadays, something has changed: it's the _respect_ that's missing.
I share the same opinion of tZork's, a very big +1 on that. Every word. On your self-glorification... and all your help to us.
I think the main problem here is, that some NN has gained some "elitist" view. And from oldies, that's not tolerated. That could be the main problem here, that should be changed some way. I don't know how to express myself better, sorry, I'm not native english
[-z-], I respect you, and all the work you've done for the game and the community, and I can say a big: THANK YOU. But pretty please mate, think about what I've told you here.

[halogene]

+1 for C.Brutail

Personally I, too, greatly appreciate the work [-z-] or the NN community has done for Nexuiz and have been pointing out www.nexuizninjaz.com to new/unexperienced players along with esteel's thread several times.

But I also have a strong aversion against elitist thinking.

Enuff said (at least from me). Please let this thread rest in peace.



Oh darn, I posted.

[k0jak]

Basically, there is multiple views on the game:

• The "pros": players of very high skill, who need the game to provide more depth, so even they can still improve
• The "average player": players of medium skill, who want to enjoy the game, and be able to learn from the "pros"
• The "newbies": players who are new to the game, or don't have enough time to rise to a higher level

I must admit even i forgot this a bit some short time back, and i agree that everyone should be able to be catered for, thats why i always said you can't force Some of the teamplay ideas that have been mentioned onto public servers, let that go into mods or competitive stuff.

[Mute Print]

tZork said it all for me, and I request that his statements not be twisted out of context by any party.

[Mirio]

lock this topic! whats the point of "you are an ass" , "your ideas suck" ?
for ideas theres the CTF topic. we don't need "Hate topics"

[The mysterious Mr. 4m]

This is a heated discussion and i usually keep out of such things, but i hope my words will put some of you back on track:

Look, i don't know what this is all really about*, but it takes up your time and energy and you should weigh the gains and losses. Critique should put your awareness on your weaknesses.

*(seems like [-z-] against the community - or rather the community against [-z-], the misconceptions and aggressions originating from a different source)