Nexuiz 2.5 beta builds

[BizzyBeaver]

Well, my System is very stable for long time!
The Actual Driver is installed too!

I can't take another Graphic card, because i only have a DELL Vostro 1500 Laptop!

Can't the problem be otherwise? (Kann das problem nirgens anders liegen? ._.)

[esteel]

Well the drivers are the most probable explaination. Do you know WHICH drivers exactly are installed? Could be some windows default drivers which really suck at opengl.. Can you try to see if there is a newer version of the drivers available from dell or maybe directly from intel?

[BizzyBeaver]

There are installed the actualst driver from DELL..
They work with all my programs and 2.4.2 is funtioning too
Just this damn bug with the first Shot

[uluyol901]

No, you can even take closed nvidia in comparison.

Currently intel: dri2 (allows composite managers manage opengl apps and should be faster than dri anyway), gem (uses new gpu memory management - Graphics Execution Manager), kms (Kernel Mode Setting - finally someone from kernel devs got a clever idea to get native resolution while booting, instead of getting bloated with unknown (libNoDescription, protofoo-1987compat) things X doing this (thing which could already be done 10 years ago)), 3d intel drivers can be/are built for new gallium architecture (in Mesa development version), uses UXA for even faster Xrender (I suppose it's 2d only) acceleration.

Too bad that there is no real documentation (as always in linux) instead of reading obscure mailing lists or guessing from xorg acronyms what this/that should do or if it would work better.

Yes you can.
Nvidia:
- Has had Redirected Direct Rendering for years now, which is what DRI2 gives
- Has had a proprietary memory manager for years
- No KMS
- Has openGL 3 and has had openGL 2 for years, though gallium is more flexible and can have other acceleration API's added (direct3d, xrender(2d), video, opencl...)
- Has VDPAU for HD video playback (NOTHING has anything close to this yet, XvMC is nowhere near this)
- Has had fast proprietary 2D acceleration architecture for years

Intel doesn't have a chance in terms of performance unless they release powerful graphics cards.
ATi is still getting the drivers stabilized and adding features.

[BizzyBeaver]

That means i can't play the 2.5?

[esteel]

The rendering code was not changed much compared to 2.4.2 .. maybe your gfx card has problems with the raised gfx-memory requirements. Try enabling texture compression or/and lower the texture quality.. Or disable the use of lightmaps.

[halogene]

after some testing of 2.5 beta I'd like to say

WOW!

I really like where 2.5 is heading. Good job everybody, great work and thank you for all your precious time that you invested!

[xeros]

Nexuiz 2.4.2 got hiccups on my machine (even the lowest settings) on some maps - mostly on open space and in 2.5 beta builds it's even worse. I'm having mostly >60 FPS but on some places I get even <20 FPS (~15 FPS) - in one place I have even 9-10 FPS. I've tried to disable everything and set every r_, gl_, cl_ settings which could give some graphic speed but it didn't help much. It's weird that even if I set textures to good or more and geometry detail to high, coronas, etc. (not the HDR, bloom, dynamic lights etc.) the FPS doesn't hurt more than the lowest settings. I've got Radeon 9600 (RV350) and I'm using Open Source drivers on Kubuntu 8.10 + KDE 4.2.1. (using pure X-server with xterm and launching Nexuiz - without KDE - didn't help either). I've been using fglrx drivers for few years and there I had ~90-150 FPS mostly and not going below 60 on Nexuiz versions to 2.4.2 but from few months I even can't use fglrx because my card is not supported anymore (now officially). It's strange that on friends Radeon 9000 (R2xx) on the same distro Nexuiz 2.4.2 has few more FPS than on my machine (I've got more RAM and more powerfull CPU, too and I've killed all the CPU and memory hungry processes). What can I do with this to make it work better?

[Ronan]

Xeros, the open source drivers for R3xx based card was made without public specifications, based on the R2xx oss drivers. The performances in 3D are not very good, not enough for gaming. Fortunately, the rendering mode made in nexuiz2.5beta for the eeepc (r_showsurfaces 3) is also performing well with the xf86-video-ati drivers.

About the catalyst drivers, support for 9600 was broken from catalyst 8.10 (the version included in kubuntu) to 9.1. It was fixed in 9.2, so you can download it from the official site. But you are right, amd announced they are dropping support for R300 to R500 gpu, so it wont be a long term solution.

[xeros]

Thanks. The game looks somekind ugly (with r_showsurface 3) but it's really playable and now I can shot with Nex without problems

And about fglrx - I don't want to install it again - it has to much bugs (in paradox many of them are fixed in the leaked 9.4 beta (according to what people say on phoronix forum) but it doesn't support my card), so I'm stuck with good (without irritating bugs) open source drivers.