jetpack clipping.. maybe?

[divVerent]

When mappers start doing that, I'll remove the means to do so, as the jetpack NORMALLY is not game breaking.

On the other hand, I may just as well limit the range of jetpack fuel consumption, so one cannot set it as low as the server you are complaining about currently does. Also, at the default jetpack setting, you need skill to use it to be fast, e.g. because the upwards speed is quite low. Usually, to get out of a fight, jetpack alone gets you nowhere, but if you combine it with a laserjump, it's great.

[Flying Steel]

When mappers start doing that, I'll remove the means to do so, as the jetpack NORMALLY is not game breaking.

I hope you're not thinking about removing the mutator jetpack at some point?

On the other hand, I may just as well limit the range of jetpack fuel consumption, so one cannot set it as low as the server you are complaining about currently does. Also, at the default jetpack setting, you need skill to use it to be fast, e.g. because the upwards speed is quite low. Usually, to get out of a fight, jetpack alone gets you nowhere, but if you combine it with a laserjump, it's great.

This seems like it would be quite pointless, not only because of the OS codebase, but since the folks who run crazy servers aren't hurting anyone. Those who don't like their settings can just go elsewhere. I myself only go to the server in question when I'm in the mood for alot of flying around and difficult shots, which is very rarely, but that certainly isn't subtracting from my experience; there's plenty more servers out there with more balanced settings or default settings.

The jetpack is sadly taking away a reason for newbies to learn how to move, bunny hop, strafe jump, laser jump, and other very useful movement techniques; because they have a single button to do it for them.

So what?

Is it bad to have a more simply, easy and elegate interface to accomplish the same ends?

If the jetpack just allows more folks to be as fast, and you're finding that this level of equality is detracting from your enjoyment of the game, then that is because either:

1) Nexuiz is still set too fast (either for your tastes or balance altogether).

2) You derive most of your satisfaction from 'owning noobs'.

But neither scenario reflects badly on the jetpack itself.

[AnArKiSt]

Can we make a jetpack weapon?

A jetpack "weapon" would be perfect. You could make a flamethrower out of it or something, that would add a nice new effect, like a damage over time effect. You could set somebody on fire, and they'll take an amount of damage based on how long the fire is supposed to last and the damage it does per time interval. It would also be cool if the fire effect could be removed by swimming.

Just a thought.

[tundramagi]

When mappers start doing that, I'll remove the means to do so, as the jetpack NORMALLY is not game breaking.

On the other hand, I may just as well limit the range of jetpack fuel consumption, so one cannot set it as low as the server you are complaining about currently does. Also, at the default jetpack setting, you need skill to use it to be fast, e.g. because the upwards speed is quite low. Usually, to get out of a fight, jetpack alone gets you nowhere, but if you combine it with a laserjump, it's great.

Why? Why shouldn't a server admin beable to set the consumption as low as he wants.
If you put restrictions it it will just be removed in the quake C by the admin.

Why should, just because some players are being pwnd by jetpackers on some server... should the jetpack be nerfed. These "eliete" players who complain all the time... they're not the masters of us all.

They think they are ofcourse.

But why shouldn't a server beable to set jetpack consumption to whatever they want?
That's one of the good things about nexuiz: you can do just about anything.

Often i set consumption to nothing and we have dogfights.

[tundramagi]

Here is my view on the jetpack.

I constantly see the jetpack being used as a way for newbies to bail out when they take too much damage. If they screw up in a manner that would normally get them killed, let them die. How are they going to learn, if they do not suffer from their mistakes? Many people on Nexican don't even bunny hop, as they let the jet pack do it for them, and some of them don't even laser jump, because they have a trusty jetpack to help them out.

For now, I'll call the the Jetpack "Nexuiz training wheels for movement newbies".

For now, I'll not care what childish names you proscribe to various features.

As if what you or I called something mattered at all.

The jetpack is sadly taking away a reason for newbies to learn how to move, bunny hop, strafe jump, laser jump, and other very useful movement techniques; because they have a single button to do it for them.

I strongly encourage mappers to nerf or disallow the jetpack in their maps (or areas in them) where they feel it would be abused or become detrimental to the experience of the map.

It is not your, nor the mappers decision as to weather or not the admin of the server will enable the jetpack mutator.

Infact, I am feeling the need to make a map that abuses the jetpack to the greatest degree possible, then post it here, and then bask in the hate.

I don't understand why you feel the need to dictate what other people do with their servers.
It's like you think that the "nexuiz society" should be some way and you intend to make sure it is that way.

Go build a map.