jetpack clipping.. maybe?

[Grasshopper]

I was wondering if there is such a thing as a jetpack clip in the works or something like it . say i built mentalspace and it was on a sever using jetpack . wel now the hard work i put in the map is now useless . so i build mental re-space with jetpack clip in the center . now people will have to interact to cap .

I see some usage for such a tool in places . So im wondering if there is an existing brush or something of the like somewhere .

Now im not knocking the jetpack at all . i think it brings new fun to some maps and definately new dynamics . its just that some maps have become broken due to its use . so therefore i thought i might bring up the discussion . what do you guys think?

[divVerent]

It would probably appear more like a bug than like anything else.

What you already can do, is use target_items to make a field that kills all your fuel. I'd probably prefer that over real "jetpack clip" as what would happen if you jump inside that clip, and THEN use the jetpack while inside? Would you get stuck?

[Grasshopper]

target item feild ? can you elaborate more on this ? if i could use an alternative way and be creative that would suit me

the clip i was thinking about would just shut off the jetpack kinda like an electro magnetic pulse would shut down a car . you still have the previous momentum but can use the JP in the clip feild . i dunno i was just spawning ideas .

[Sepelio]

Something that just makes you drop out of the sky could be quite funny. Some sort of effect similar to the crylink, just cause the person to drop straight down.

[Grasshopper]

jetpack has really ruined my nexuiz experience , i only have 2 servers i can play in . one has the jetpack the other is old school gameplay . it seems new players like the jetpack and dont care to move on thier own . the other server barely has anyone on it ever . so boredom has struck and the only thing to do is camp on the jetpack server . im really thinking of quiting nexuiz and so are others . it seems like evrything else has an emidiate couterpart to null and void / or exploit a weakness . exisiting maps have nothing to keep from breaking maps with jetpack . and they also have nothing to keep using it on any new map period . there needs to be a clip or something .

[Mr. Bougo]

You should contact the server admin... The jetpack is turned off by default, and I believe there can be fuel settings preventing big abuses.
I guess that jetpack server has loads of fuel? That would be as stupid as making a server with all weapons, infinite ammo, hook, and reverse CTF with zero gravity


Err

I hope noone thinks that's a good idea. Ew.

[Grasshopper]

ya go check o8 nexican . 99 fuel , camping rifle spawns in place of nex . and the rocket gets spawned by the tag . so ya how do you swat a fly with a pebble (nex) . 300 point fraglimit . long boring games . server adim doesnt care about anything unless it happens to him . but it is a popular server WOW . i guess people dont mind racism and fowl language as long there is a jetpack

[MaKR]

Here's my take on the jetpack - as much as the hook gained criticism before, the jetpack is far worse. While the "hook was for n00bs", it did require a certain skill that was different than traditional skill. The US pub ctf scene is hurting badly. hoctf has become a great server for those who go there, but only while players are online. Shutting down Nexican would be terrible on the other hand, as that is the primary server for all the new players. The admin of Nexican will not change the rules, he is the one who decided the default jetpack settings weren't enough to make use of the jetpack so he lowered the fuel usage to minimum and also made the fuel regenerate quicker. The rifle spawns more like 3/4 of the time instead of the 1/2 it's supposed to, and when the admin plays his server it's likely that he will have a nex every spawn, even before picking one up. I'm not going to go throw accusations, but I quit playing there. The server is hurting the Nexuiz community, though, since the n00bs come to hoctf and play 1 or 2 maps, say it is boring, then leave. We are getting greater numbers of players, but we're picking quantity over quality. Somehow we need to push servers like hoctf, hodm, dm ga, and dm ca so players actually get a sense what competitive settings are like. Doku has made great pushes towards servers that "everyone" likes and agreed on, but they're empty way too often and we have to resort to crap if we want some company.

[divVerent]

As for target_items: you can do, e.g.:

"classname" "target_items"
"spawnflags" "1"
"ammo_fuel" "-1"

I.e., in radiant, make a brush is common/trigger. Turn it into a target_items entity. Click the "and/min" checkbox, and make a new field called ammo_fuel and set it to -1.

When someone flies into it, he'll lose all his fuel and fall down like a rock. This can be VERY annoying - so PLEASE make this thing visible by adding some decoration (e.g. a force field texture) so jetpackets see what to avoid.

Still, at the default settings, the jetpack should not be that bad as fuel is depleted quite quickly. One actually has to watch the counter. Why the Nexican admin made it use much less fuel is beyond me. Why have fuel at all then, is what I would ask.

[tundramagi]

server adim doesnt care about anything unless it happens to him . but it is a popular server WOW . i guess people dont mind racism and fowl language as long there is a jetpack

Server admin is American, he respects free speech as long as it doesnt happen to him.
I have similar rules: people can say whatever they want on my server (I don't have rules, as a rule).

If you have a server and you need people on it, park a client or 2 on that server, if it has a good ping you'll have a bunch of people playing quickly.

As for the argument that X is hurting the "nexuiz society" because Y, thusly we must push out X is the same argument used to justify government tyranny (which never is to help the people in the society, just to force them to pay another tax to some entrenched intrests.)

IE: If peeps like nexican, they like it.