Please get rid of exploding projectiles god dammit

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Let's get rid of stupid projectile on projectile explosions, especially RL vs mortar!?

Poll ended at Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:06 pm

Yes!
4
9%
No!
34
74%
I'm a low ping bitch and enjoy detonating your rockets :D
8
17%
 
Total votes : 46

Re: Please get rid of exploding projectiles god dammit

Postby WolfyAU82 » Sun May 31, 2009 5:54 pm

k0jak wrote:Thread topic says its all.

RL is virtually useless against someone with mortar + low ping (actually not always low ping, but this happens most of the time)

In fact it's not just that, it's possibly the most annoying thing in the world in nexuiz.

Crylink does this too, but that actually takes some skill and is a good defensive weapon.

Remove this stupid projectile detonation and make the RocketLauncher useful. Thank you.


dude I get low ping and you don't hear me complaining... Grab a friggin Hagar pelt the suckers with a hail storm of rockets, works for me.

Moral of the story... Quit bitchin' and get even!

low ping or not... it's possible to wrack up the frags if you know the weapons and how they work under various latency conditions, take a little more skill than you'd ordinarily need otherwise.

At 300...

The MG and most energy weapons will have some delay (not much) whereas the Shotgun has virtually nil.

At the end of the day it's all about tactics.

Get rid of explosive weapons? That's about as bad as complaining about Camping. (not that you can pull it off in Nexuiz)
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Postby Mizu Kitsune » Sun May 31, 2009 5:58 pm

who would want to get rid of the explosives anyways? you just have to know how to use them.
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Postby alpha » Sun May 31, 2009 5:59 pm

k0jak wrote:
alpha wrote:Nex > RL. I don't see why complain.


nex damage is down to 110 now.

It is it's mainly mortar and nex most of the time in nexuiz, RL is normally useless against the mortar.


There is more to it than damage. RL becomes increasingly useless with increasing range while nex is as strong in close as it is in sniper range.

Nex > RL _most_ of the time.
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Postby tZork » Sun May 31, 2009 6:23 pm

wut? i go away for a few days and this is what i find when i get back?! iiiish.

Why is
k0jak wrote:RL is virtually useless against someone with mortar + low ping (actually not always low ping, but this happens most of the time)

a bad thing? if you don't have these gunz to counter with, fighting off a rl attacker is.. hard. to hard most of the time. (which is ok, as long as there is a weapon / way to tilt teh balance at times).

In my experience, going toe-toe rl<->nex means the nex'r nets a nuked most of the time. Given the two players are somewhat equal in skill that is.

I think a rl without this would mean is needs a serious nerf to fit the balance, and a seriously deballed rl is not Nexuiz (to me).
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Postby tundramagi » Sun May 31, 2009 6:28 pm

tZork wrote:wut? i go away for a few days and this is what i find when i get back?! iiiish.

Why is
k0jak wrote:RL is virtually useless against someone with mortar + low ping (actually not always low ping, but this happens most of the time)

a bad thing? if you don't have these gunz to counter with, fighting off a rl attacker is.. hard. to hard most of the time. (which is ok, as long as there is a weapon / way to tilt teh balance at times).

In my experience, going toe-toe rl<->nex means the nex'r nets a nuked most of the time. Given the two players are somewhat equal in skill that is.

I think a rl without this would mean is needs a serious nerf to fit the balance, and a seriously deballed rl is not Nexuiz (to me).


Alpha also wants the RL made into a gelding. He want's the damage to be nerfed down to 110, you know, so you can't kill him with it.

Also he's infatuated with drew barrymore. I don't think she's pretty, even with her plastic surgery.

alpha wrote:
k0jak wrote:
alpha wrote:Nex > RL. I don't see why complain.


nex damage is down to 110 now.

It is it's mainly mortar and nex most of the time in nexuiz, RL is normally useless against the mortar.


There is more to it than damage. RL becomes increasingly useless with increasing range while nex is as strong in close as it is in sniper range.

Nex > RL _most_ of the time.


The nex sucks now. Thanks alpha.

How to kill a nex user: jump over his head, shot gun him while doing this, duck into a corner, come around the other time, one more shot finishes him off.

That's what I do. Works every time.

You know the one place it won't work... on open maps. The nex user still might get off 2 shots and kill you, better nerf it down to 50 dmg :P.

But what weapon must be nerfed next.. because you know peeps will just be pwning you with something else now.


k0jak wrote:
ai wrote:Without this counter the RL would be too dominant. Thinking about certain maps where one can just spam and spam and spam and with no way being able to counter it.


The mortar is used to push opponents back as well and there is other defensive weapons to counter it, the fact is it's just random stupid luck half the time when your rockets get exploded and does insane damage, can't believe people don't think it's annoying.


We accept that some players are more skillful than us and we don't have an inherent right to win.

You and alpha on the otherhand...
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Postby Lee_Stricklin » Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:13 am

k0jak wrote:
alpha wrote:Nex > RL. I don't see why complain.


nex damage is down to 110 now.

It is it's mainly mortar and nex most of the time in nexuiz, RL is normally useless against the mortar.


Then pull out the laser.
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Postby tundramagi » Mon Jun 01, 2009 2:04 am

Kojn: the new alpha.

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Postby tundramagi » Mon Jun 01, 2009 2:06 am

Lee_Stricklin wrote:
k0jak wrote:
alpha wrote:Nex > RL. I don't see why complain.


nex damage is down to 110 now.

It is it's mainly mortar and nex most of the time in nexuiz, RL is normally useless against the mortar.


Then pull out the laser.


Nex isn't all that good anymore, and the RL is getting nerfed down from 150 to 120 or even a super shitty 110... ty alpha and everyone else who want's useless weapons :P.

Oh well.
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Postby Lee_Stricklin » Mon Jun 01, 2009 2:08 am

k0jak wrote:
ai wrote:Without this counter the RL would be too dominant. Thinking about certain maps where one can just spam and spam and spam and with no way being able to counter it.


The mortar is used to push opponents back as well and there is other defensive weapons to counter it, the fact is it's just random stupid luck half the time when your rockets get exploded and does insane damage, can't believe people don't think it's annoying.


You can use a laser to push someone back, or use it to get away from them.
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Postby alpha » Mon Jun 01, 2009 7:28 am

tundramagi wrote:Kojn: the new alpha.

I am flattered. I was actually trying to turn out half as good as the man, and here we are, he is new me :D Epic.
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