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UDP SSL for DP (I heard someone was working on this)????????

Postby tundramagi » Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:54 pm

UDP SSL for DP (I heard someone was working on this)?
OpenSSL supports udp now (has for some time, and they finally fixed some bugs 3 months or so ago) and I heard that someone was working on bringing this optional feature to darkplaces.
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Postby Mr. Bougo » Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:48 pm

Sorry, "you heard" ???

Also, I'm not even sure what would be the reason to use openssl...
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Postby tundramagi » Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:19 pm

Mr. Bougo wrote:Sorry, "you heard" ???

Also, I'm not even sure what would be the reason to use openssl...


I was told. Was I told wrong.
The reason why having the option to use openssl was discussed allready.
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Postby Mr. Bougo » Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:28 pm

Well, I have no idea, I never heard about this.

And I'm not sure I know your reasons... Got any link to your explaination?
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Postby tundramagi » Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:38 pm

Mr. Bougo wrote:Well, I have no idea, I never heard about this.

And I'm not sure I know your reasons... Got any link to your explaination?


We discussed it in another thread.
No cheating. Mitm is made very difficult. Everything said/talked about can be kept private amongst the parties playing the game.

I know that won't sway you, but alot of people would like to beable to set up a non-cleartext server. Wrapping everything in crypto goodness is a nice option.
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Postby GreEn`mArine » Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:24 pm

ain't the game a bit too fast to do a man in the middle attack :D?

It's not like that you could intercept a packet of kojn moving on the map, altering his packet to do a "look on floor,switch to RL, shoot in your own face" in realtime :)
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Postby divVerent » Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:57 am

Of course you can. Wait for the bit for weapon firing being set in the header of the input packet, and if set, alter the view angles randomly.
1. Open Notepad
2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
3. Save
4. Open the file in Notepad again

You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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Postby GreEn`mArine » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:22 am

yeah OK by automating it it could work. I may ask for the number of times this had been done before. I mean I know it's 0, but it's fun to ask anyway :)
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Postby alpha » Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:37 am

tl;dr
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quit for good
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Postby Mr. Bougo » Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:34 pm

Thanks for your constructive contribution alph'

Mikee, I'm not sure why you would be afraid of mitm in... nexuiz?! It's a game ffs, there's no sensitive data transfered there. Same thing for the chat... I believe there are places better than a game server to transmit confidential data.

The only thing I see that would benefit from encryption is rcon, but it's already protected, and is dependant from the main part of the protocol.
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