Nexuiz.com makeover? Nexuiz going to consoles?

[MirceaKitsune]

Yes [-z-], very nicely said and true.

[paperclips]

heh, I thought everybody as in "core" devs, contributers was in on this...
since this is not the case. Yes, that loyalty towards alientrap is gone, true spoken.

Although I have faith that there will come something better and maybe some long in the making needed change out of this, since we have a great community and the devs making nexuiz that used to be a reality.

[tundramagi]

Surely those who relicensed their GPL licensed artwork, levels, etc to this development group under terms other than the GPL (less restrictive to said develoment group so that the derivative works can be kept proprietary) entered into a revenue sharing agreement?

Surely?
(And not profit sharing, as "hollywood" accounting can make millions in what we normaly recognise as profit become "losses".)
And Lord Havoc must be getting something out of this so that he can continue adding new features to darkplaces.

Right?
I hope that those who have contributed greatly to the core nexuiz benifit.

But... start thinking of a new name for GPL-Nexuiz. Also please now make records (if you haven't allready) of the bequests of the GPL content that NotAsGraphicallyPretty-Nexuiz has recieved so that the following does not occur in entirety:

GPLNexuiz content -> Licensed from Authors under other non-exclusive licenses -> Used as basis for proprietary content -> Successful console game -> Company that made Nexuiz sold -> New owners notice that GPLNexuiz (or whatever it is then called) is using content that looks similar to their own -> They find out it's content they licensed -> they sue the "infringers"

And you lose because you can't even get into an american court before dolling out about Ten Thousand Dollars.
Initial motions and responses: $3000 to $5000
Discovery: Another $5000 at least.
Court.

Well... it's going to happen eventually I bet, make sure you're prepared. Document everything. This is your savings on the line probably in maybe 5 years from now, maybe 3.

[Ilaith]

or just keep out of the US?

[Irritant]

This is quite strange. From the screenshots, I can't see a shred of GPL Nexuiz art in this game, so I'm assuming they are mostly using code, and concepts of some things. Furthermore, once something is GPL, it cannot be relicensed can it? Doesn't the GPL strictly forbid that? Seems to me they'd have to at least release the game engine as GPL.

From the screenshots, the game looks quite good. The art is nice, and has a great theme. If this art was being returned in kind to GPL Nexuiz, this development would be a great thing. Otherwise, it seems like a potentially damaging fork. I feel sorry for those are closely involved with the original game who were kept in the dark. That was very unfair to you.

[Grasshopper]

the console noobs can keep nex-yoo-iz . we can keep the nex-ee-us .

[BoyAmIMad]

Just a lil something.



Kinda how I feel.

[[-z-]]

This is quite strange. From the screenshots, I can't see a shred of GPL Nexuiz art in this game, so I'm assuming they are mostly using code, and concepts of some things. Furthermore, once something is GPL, it cannot be relicensed can it? Doesn't the GPL strictly forbid that? Seems to me they'd have to at least release the game engine as GPL.

content can be release under a dual license

[MirceaKitsune]

What I'm most eager now is to see what the dev(s) who were in front of this (Veremulen and other users if I heard correctly) will say, if they will mention anything. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against anyone (although I'm as badly upset on those who did this), but Imo it's the very least that can be done after something like this has happened. It likely wasn't hard to guess how we would feel about it... why was that ignored?

[Zico]

Hello guys.

It's really been years sinc eI visited the forums last. But I played the game very often. I am currently working for nexgam.de and I brought them to pay attention to Open Source games and - without using rates - we now review them. Nexuiz was on my list for a big review ... it was.
I read the annoucement - so I waited. I expected a new major version and I wanted to wait to review it.

Now I read this. Actually now I am not sure what to do anymore. I wanted to do a big review. I also wanted an interview with the developers.

Now I am uncertain if I stil should write a review for - I think - one of the greatest archivements in concerns of Open Source games. Why? It's simple: Because if there will be a console version with the same name, this will mean confusion. It will be confusion and I think the Open Source review will be ignored after a while as people will logically expect the console-version will be the successor (which basically the website nexuiz.com seemed to say to me) - not a different game.

For one part I think it's a very big success for the responsible guys here. Congratulations to them...
Aside from that - I do honestly not know what else to think about this.