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Re: IllFonic's Nexuiz

Postby Komier » Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:33 pm

Oh well, if it comes out on Xbox 360, I guess I'll buy it and write up a review. I'm hoping it's good, and I'm wondering if the physics are the same. I would really like to see some bunnyhopping, mid-air turning in a console, team-based game for a change.
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Re: IllFonic's Nexuiz

Postby Kedhrin » Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:39 pm

MirceaKitsune wrote:There would be many questions to ask, and few come to mind right now. I do however have two questions I'd like to ask you Kedhrin.

Firstly, is there absolutely no way you may reconsider about the name and change it a little bit? I don't mean an entierly new name, but anything in it. Nexiuz, or Nexuiz Something...?

Second, I was curious if Illfonic would agree to something like this (mainly the homepage / logo part) if the devs of this project and other players would decide on it too (quoting from another topic):

MirceaKitsune wrote:In case we won't convince Illfonic to change their minds and the new game's name will remain Nexuiz. Maybe we can go the other way around, and rather than trying to separate the two games, make them a whole. The new Nexuiz is supposed to be for XBox / Playstation only, right? So if Illfonic promises (not only with words!) that their game will never be released for PC, then theirs can officially be the Nexuiz version for consoles while ours the Nexuiz version for PC, therefore keeping a single Nexuiz and drawing a clear line between the two. Of course this wouldn't fix anything... just thinking what the best thing to do at this moment would be.

Of course the differences would need to remain clear (that there are different teams working on each project and one is commercial while the other is not). If Illfonic are not the people we thought they are, they can turn nexuiz.com into an introduction page containing just two large logos. One would be called "Nexuiz for XBox / PS3 (or console) by Illfonic" and the other "Nexuiz for PC (GPL or other optional details here) by Alientrap", each leading to its page. That way the confusion would be cleared for BOTH projects, and BOTH would benefit from this. Anyone accessing nexuiz.com would find exactly what they're looking for, and Nexuiz would be kept whole under reasonable and clear conditions.



I have no more comments to make about the name, sorry.

About MirceaKitsune's comments, the contracts have been signed. The specifics about those contracts are confidential. I simply cannot talk about what is going on there but I can assure you, like i stated before, it is not our intention to bury GPL Nexuiz. We like what you guys have accomplished, and don't want to destroy it.

Ideas such as those about the web-site are valuable. These are things to bring up to Lee, who will in return bring up to us and we can discuss in private if he wants.
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Re: IllFonic's Nexuiz

Postby cortez » Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:39 pm

Komier wrote: I'm wondering if the physics are the same. I would really like to see some bunnyhopping, mid-air turning in a console, team-based game for a change.


would be nearly impossible
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Re: IllFonic's Nexuiz

Postby a_grue » Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:40 pm

Kedhrin: After your definite answer regarding the name change, I believe it is time to ask the question that is on the tip of everyone's tongue:
Would you mind, if the project was forked, with all current developers and the community jumping boat?
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Re: IllFonic's Nexuiz

Postby cortez » Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:43 pm

Kedhrin wrote: I simply cannot talk about what is going on there but I can assure you, like i stated before, it is not our intention to bury GPL Nexuiz. We like what you guys have accomplished, and don't want to destroy it.

but thats what you are doing at the moment!
like starting to talk about GPL Nexuiz, you dont want to change your name, but we shall change our or what?

and why do always says to every question to nexuiz on the pc ask alientrap, you said you want to support them, then work together in such questions!
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Re: IllFonic's Nexuiz

Postby Mirio » Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:44 pm

cortez wrote:
Kedhrin wrote: I simply cannot talk about what is going on there but I can assure you, like i stated before, it is not our intention to bury GPL Nexuiz. We like what you guys have accomplished, and don't want to destroy it.

but thats what you are doing at the moment!
like starting to talk about GPL Nexuiz, you dont want to change your name, but we shall change our or what?

and why do always says to every question to nexuiz on the pc ask alientrap, you said you want to support them, then work together in such questions!


Cause they don't care cortez.

If its sooooo different then why you _steal_ the name?

Fuck money!
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Re: IllFonic's Nexuiz

Postby Kedhrin » Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:49 pm

cortez wrote:
Komier wrote: I'm wondering if the physics are the same. I would really like to see some bunnyhopping, mid-air turning in a console, team-based game for a change.


would be nearly impossible


they're all in there still, the question is can you really do a quick enough mid-air turn. These are some of the things we want to capture by tweaking controls on a console. the 'exploits' turned into 'features'. which i think is really cool.
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Re: IllFonic's Nexuiz

Postby Samual » Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:03 pm

cortez wrote:
Komier wrote: I'm wondering if the physics are the same. I would really like to see some bunnyhopping, mid-air turning in a console, team-based game for a change.


would be nearly impossible
You are incorrect, I play with a game pad occasionally and I can do strafing just as well with a clever button layout.
Do it yourself, or stop complaining.
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Re: IllFonic's Nexuiz

Postby Evilsoul » Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:20 pm

So IllFonic has the name, some thousand free work hours, the very soul, the logo, the URL, the sourcecode and endless brainstorming sessions?

And all we get is a lousy 116x16 Web 2.0-flash button?

I cannot blame Illfonic, they are just capitalists .. i blame AT ! That's your understanding of the Open Source philosophy?

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Re: IllFonic's Nexuiz

Postby a_grue » Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:31 pm

> That's your understanding of the Open Source hilosophy?
Open Source has no philosophy. Free Software does.
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