Idea: Timeout of unanswered challenged

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Delete two week old challenges and give PP ?

Poll ended at Wed Apr 12, 2006 3:15 pm

Yes
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50%
No
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Total votes : 12

Postby Toets » Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:22 am

I'm not in the ladder yet, so I guess I don't have that much to say but here's an idea anyways :wink:

* E-mail notification is very important in this kind of things. People need to know what's happening without checking the ladder page every day. Every day will soon turn into once a week and later on, once a month and finally when they remember it exists... So, good you're working on this.
If possible, provide e-mails with full explanation in them of what the player is supposed to do and how to do it, depending on the situation you're sending the mail for..

* Banning accounts is rather brute, don't you think so? I would suggest an account becomes "inactive" after two months of not logging in. Inactive accounts are not shown on the mainpage (maybe provide a link on it to go to inactive accounts). When accounts are set inactive, none can challenge those players and all the pending matches get declined.
If ones account is set inactive, notify him by e-mail but give him a chance to activate his account again.
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Postby GreEn`mArine » Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:48 pm

omg, soo much work requested in one paragraph ^^

I will soon work start working on the email notification. it will be configurable (on/off) in the edit profile page. however, I'm not sure WHAT and WHEN activate email notification

possible notifications:
- mail to challenged: at a new challenge (telling to visit the "your matches" page and accept/decline the match)
- mail to challenger at the "challenge accepted/declined" event
- mail to the one who didn't write the report: mail that the other player entered the match report
- mail to the one who wrote the report: notification that the match report was accepted/declined and that the match can now be found at show matches page


what do you think which of these emails is important ? all of them ? I'm really not sure, but taking in all of them would really completely inform the user about everything that happens with his account

about banning: it is possible to "hide" a user account without banning it, however I would have to code something again to send the appropiate emails to the user who get's banned and I'm pretty lazy xD
I'm still tending to simply ban the people as they obviosly don't show any interests in the ladder. However I might perhaps code a real "clean-up" function that automatically informs all people who have accounts with login date older than lets say 3 weeks, giving them the chance to login within the last week, if they don't they have been inactive for four weeks and get automatically banned (perhaps with mail notification as well)
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[kojn] I've been coming a bit more recently
[kojn] she took it the dirty way
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Postby tZork » Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:33 pm

GreEn`mArine wrote:omg, soo much work requested in one paragraph ^^

I will soon work start working on the email notification. it will be configurable (on/off) in the edit profile page. however, I'm not sure WHAT and WHEN activate email notification

possible notifications:
- mail to challenged: at a new challenge (telling to visit the "your matches" page and accept/decline the match)
- mail to challenger at the "challenge accepted/declined" event
- mail to the one who didn't write the report: mail that the other player entered the match report
- mail to the one who wrote the report: notification that the match report was accepted/declined and that the match can now be found at show matches page

what do you think which of these emails is important ? all of them ? I'm really not sure, but taking in all of them would really completely inform the user about everything that happens with his account


All the above seems valid as options in the profile imo.

about banning: it is possible to "hide" a user account without banning it, however I would have to code something again to send the appropiate emails to the user who get's banned and I'm pretty lazy xD
I'm still tending to simply ban the people as they obviosly don't show any interests in the ladder. However I might perhaps code a real "clean-up" function that automatically informs all people who have accounts with login date older than lets say 3 weeks, giving them the chance to login within the last week, if they don't they have been inactive for four weeks and get automatically banned (perhaps with mail notification as well)


And another feature request: "Delete me" link. Since i realized that i wont heve time to fiddel with this ladder, specialy if there's a 3-4 weak timeout. I simply dont have time to log onto the ladder page every now and then when im on a big project (time in a 'relivive' way, sure i could take the time to do so; but then ill have to remeber it, and during intense work periods i just wont do that.) I think its mutch more gracefull to be able to remove yer own account insted of wating to be banned ;) .
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<Diablo> quake1 never had a weapon like that.
<Vordreller> there was no need for anything over 4GB untill Vista came along
<Samua>]Idea: Fix it? :D
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Postby GreEn`mArine » Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:03 pm

I think that, if people want to have their account deleted, they should rather ask an admin to ban them instead of providing such an abusable option

All the above seems valid as options in the profile imo.

I don't think that I will make every single email selectable but only a single "Email notification" option that will automatically send all of these mails
IRC quote:
[kojn] I've been coming a bit more recently
[kojn] she took it the dirty way
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Postby tChr » Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:11 pm

tZork wrote:And another feature request: "Delete me" link. Since i realized that i wont heve time to fiddel with this ladder, specialy if there's a 3-4 weak timeout. I simply dont have time to log onto the ladder page every now and then when im on a big project (time in a 'relivive' way, sure i could take the time to do so; but then ill have to remeber it, and during intense work periods i just wont do that.) I think its mutch more gracefull to be able to remove yer own account insted of wating to be banned ;) .

I think it would be better to have the possibility to "hide indefinetly" that works as an inactivity until you turn if off.. Maybe you are going on holiday for mosnth.. or get a big project.. or something.. but you want to get back into the ladder when you're back...
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Postby GreEn`mArine » Fri Apr 07, 2006 4:07 am

well, I could change the code so that people who are inactive won't become just grey (and unchallengable) but disappear instead, but I would have to setup a vote for that before again
IRC quote:
[kojn] I've been coming a bit more recently
[kojn] she took it the dirty way
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Postby tZork » Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:40 am

GreEn`mArine wrote:I think that, if people want to have their account deleted, they should rather ask an admin to ban them instead of providing such an abusable option

Just curiose, how would this be abuseable?

All the above seems valid as options in the profile imo.

I don't think that I will make every single email selectable but only a single "Email notification" option that will automatically send all of these mails

Oki. Personaly ide set em as individual options so allow the user to cose what info he wants, but "all or nothing" is better then "nothing or nothing" ;)
HOF:
<Diablo> the nex is a "game modification"
<Diablo> quake1 never had a weapon like that.
<Vordreller> there was no need for anything over 4GB untill Vista came along
<Samua>]Idea: Fix it? :D
<Samua>Lies, that only applies to other people.
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Postby Urmel » Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:45 am

tZork wrote:
Just curiose, how would this be abuseable?



Imagine Yer like #1 in teh Ranking and someone's really pissed of Yer skills, hacks himself into Yer account and deletes it. I tink thats what GreEn considers as "abusable", me2 btw :)
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Postby tZork » Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:47 am

Urmel aus dem Eis wrote:
tZork wrote:
Just curiose, how would this be abuseable?



Imagine Yer like #1 in teh Ranking and someone's really pissed of Yer skills, hacks himself into Yer account and deletes it. I tink thats what GreEn considers as "abusable", me2 btw :)


Imagine not making a ladder system that allows sql injection and enforcing good passwords. Then imagine how fustrated this hakker ould be. ;) also, if teh system is hakkable other bad things can happen..
HOF:
<Diablo> the nex is a "game modification"
<Diablo> quake1 never had a weapon like that.
<Vordreller> there was no need for anything over 4GB untill Vista came along
<Samua>]Idea: Fix it? :D
<Samua>Lies, that only applies to other people.
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Postby divVerent » Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:33 am

tZork wrote:Imagine not making a ladder system that allows sql injection and enforcing good passwords. Then imagine how fustrated this hakker ould be. ;) also, if teh system is hakkable other bad things can happen..


Not vulnerable to SQL injection... are you trying to tell me... that there are OTHER language than PHP? ;)
1. Open Notepad
2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
3. Save
4. Open the file in Notepad again

You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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