All about hacks

[Komier]

I played with someone named Nick, and he was using that speed hack. He also told people where to go to get one.
He also hit me very accurately considering he was flying all over the place.
This was also on Galt's minstagib server.

[Psychcf]

I played with someone named Nick, and he was using that speed hack. He also told people where to go to get one.
He also hit me very accurately considering he was flying all over the place.
This was also on Galt's minstagib server.

welcome!

anyways, a speed hack is very unlikely because physics and movement are done server-side. If he was jumping repetitively, he was most likely bunny hopping.

[John Galt]

Komier -- you're present in the demo I have of this going on. Have you seen Nick doing this speedhack another time, or just the once?

Psycic, unfortunately this speedhack looks real. I haven't been able to capture a tcpdump of it as it's happening yet, but I'm on the lookout.

[divVerent]

I played with someone named Nick, and he was using that speed hack. He also told people where to go to get one.
He also hit me very accurately considering he was flying all over the place.
This was also on Galt's minstagib server.

Do you have logs? If he told people where to get the hacks, we (the devs) need that link so we can check out that hack and fix an engine bug if it is true.

[John Galt]

His nick was actually "Nate" and he told people it was done with cheatengine. (cheatengine.org, I'm guessing)

I do have the console logs from the session, though I'm not sure there's more information to be had there.

[impulse9]

Bah, the best way to avoid cheaters is simply to ignore them ... that way they don't find it so interesting and they usually quit. You can train on them anyways .

[John Galt]

relevant chat lines at the time:

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^7^3[2007-09-19 18:54:51] [CI]Insanity^7: wtf?
^7^3[2007-09-19 18:55:14] ^9[I]^1OldSchool^7: hmm
^7[2007-09-19 18:55:41] ^4^9[I]^1OldSchool^4 is spectating now
^7[2007-09-19 18:55:47] ^4Komier^4 is spectating now
^7^3[2007-09-19 18:55:56] ^9[I]^1OldSchool^7: nate got a speed hacking going
^7^3[2007-09-19 18:55:59] Komier^7: i think nate is cheating
^7^3[2007-09-19 18:55:59] [CI]Insanity^7: He's got a hack
^7^3[2007-09-19 18:56:30] ^9[I]^1OldSchool^7: interesting
^7^3[2007-09-19 18:56:57] ^9[I]^1OldSchool^7: nate where you find that?
^7^3[2007-09-19 18:57:05] Nate^7: its chjeatengine
^7^3[2007-09-19 18:57:11] ^2* ^3[CI]Insanity^2 calls a vote for ^1kick Nate
^7^3[2007-09-19 18:57:17] ^2* ^3[CI]Insanity^2's vote for ^1kick Nate^2 was accepted
^7[2007-09-19 18:57:17] Client "Nate^7" dropped
^7[2007-09-19 18:57:17] ^4Nate^4 disconnected


[Psychcf]

Ok. I see how they did it. He basically changed the variable that controls movement speed, and the server just accepted it. This should be an easy fix without significant performance loss.

[divVerent]

^7^3[2007-09-19 18:57:05] Nate^7: its chjeatengine

I doubt that. I think he means he uses a modified DarkPlaces engine. Which is much more likely.

And no, console logs are not interesting... what we need is a network dump of the cheat (tcpdump), or the cheat itself.

[John Galt]

Trouble is, I haven't seen his IP since this infamous day. Otherwise, we'd have a tcpdump log by now.