CTF

[ai]

First off, that was a VERY bad ai imitation. Secondly, you make me look very bad with that imitation and making me look like a child which still haven't reached puberty.
Thirdly you yet again you assume that I just 'skimmed' through (or haven't read at all) your stuff which it wrong. So you try to make me look bad.
Fourthly I HAVE described my system in detail (now who's the one who's not paying attention?), whether it was in this thread or another (can't remember the place).
Fifthly, I never said my 'system' is best, I said it's a compromise of both worlds.
And lastly, you basically just took one concept of the entire discussion and summed it up to describe me which is so wrong to do.

I do not appreciate people making fun of me this way and possibly spreading false impressions on other people. This makes you look immature instead. During this whole discussion I haven't let any feelings get in my way of either writing posts or judging the whole thing. But it seems as you have put some feelings into it and it has grown to a dislike against me. I still respect you and your opinions and never thought less of you during this entire time. I can control my feelings but I'm not so confident others can as well as me.

But anyway, do NOT respond to this post here. If you indeed want to respond please do so in PM. This conversation is getting off track and I don't want to steer it that way.
We've already solved the stuff we've been discussing and no more is needed at this point. What we should do now is discuss the protection thing and what people think about that.

I still haven't made up my mind and I believe it still will be a while before I develop an opinion about it. I suppose I'll just have to wait and see what happens.

Cheers.

[Alien]

Bubble idea will fail like the speed reduction.

[[-z-]]

Bubble idea will fail like the speed reduction.

Based on my original idea of a -20 (4 failed attempts), I imagine the bubble would be created after 4 consecutive failures... meaning you'd need to have a 1/4 success rate or 25%... which this poll indicates is just about right. Of course, this could be adjusted as well.

Care to explain your reasoning behind this statement or do you just like filling this thread with your opinions that lack supporting evidence?

[Alien]

I already told you to read why. And this poll does not indicate that your idea is right anyway.

[ai]

'Evidence' is a wrong word in this concept. No one has evidence of anything. But elaborating opinions is what you actually mean (which you did say so no harm there).
What I think he meant is that, people disliked the speed reduction and that they will dislike the bubble idea as well.

[Alien]

I have evidences, but some people seem not to pay attention whatever would be said here. They instead compare such ideas to cars and horses. Main evidence is that mods on such ideas were created long ago and they didn't survive because good players don't like such rules and noobs either leave, either become good or either get kickbanned.

Saying that Nexuiz differs too much that traditional and tested CTF practice couldn't be applied is probably much more "evident" even the video was presented, which was of course refuted as not suitable.

[[-z-]]

I already told you to read why. And this poll does not indicate that your idea is right anyway.

Because it's not quake 1 CTF? I'm at a loss here, please, help me understand.

The poll indicates what percentage of captures people prefer. The bubble would help enforce this percentage.

Play a game with a teammate who has a capture rate of 5% and try to tell me you're having a good time. The bubble is supposed to help those who can't help themselves or their team.

What I think he meant is that, people disliked the speed reduction and that they will dislike the bubble idea as well.

The big difference here, is that the speed reduction was a global change that would punish ANYONE. The speed reduction also changes the physics of the game.

The bubble merely punishes those who can't get a specific capture rate (assuming 20-25% though most likely this would be a configurable cvar) because this hurts the team.

[[-z-]]

I have evidences, but some people seem not to pay attention whatever would be said here. They instead compare such ideas to cars and horses. Main evidence is that mods on such ideas were created long ago and they didn't survive because good players don't like such rules and noobs either leave, either become good or either get kickbanned.

Saying that Nexuiz differs too much that traditional and tested CTF practice couldn't be applied is probably much more "evident".

By this logic, portal was a bad idea too.


Please enlighten me as to how the bubble would negatively affect good players. "good players" wouldn't ever see the bubble.

[Alien]

I'm sorry to inform you but POLL IS NOT ABOUT BUBBLE.

[[-z-]]

I'm sorry to inform you but POLL IS NOT ABOUT BUBBLE.

I'm sorry to inform you but you don't understand how the bubble will be implemented if you think a poll about capture rates doesn't apply.