CTF personal scoring parameters poll

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How many flag carrier kills with returns are as good as a successful capture, in terms of contribution to the team?

3
6
27%
4
5
23%
5
6
27%
7
3
14%
10
0
No votes
20
2
9%
 
Total votes : 22

CTF personal scoring parameters poll

Postby divVerent » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:47 am

Assume you want captures only to decide the game - how should the personal scoring look like?

I am going to set up polls to answer simple questions to decide parameters of the scoring.

The questions will be:

Which success rate must a capper have to be of value for his team, that is, to get a positive personal score?
(0% to 50%)

How many flag carrier kills with returns are as good as a successful capture, in terms of contribution to the team?
(3, 4, 5, 7, 10, 20)

How much credit to give the flag carrier killer compared to the returner?
(reward the returner only, 1/5, 1/3, 1/2, 2/3, 4/5, reward the FC killer only)

These polls with their results should give a general idea on how to tune the personal scoring system.

ONLY VOTE if you think of the implications of your choice.
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Postby Alien » Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:37 pm

regular_kills*A + fckills*B + capture_value - losing_flag_value + picking_up_flag_value + returning_flag_value - teamkills*C - suicides*D

The losing flag punishment should depend on the other values and constants.

bonus_if_returned_by_fckiller value can be added too, but not necessary.
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Postby divVerent » Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:54 pm

Don't you think this is the very POINT of this thread? Namely, getting some input in clear terms, from which to calculate the points for the different actions?
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Postby Alien » Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:21 pm

The punishment should be adequate in comparison to all other scores, so you can't decide the punishment's value basing it only on the capture score, what you are now trying to do. What I mean, punishment value should depend on return_value + fckill_value*B too. If you make those two higher/lower, punishment should be decreased/increased accordingly.

IMO, the best way would be if we could have statististics for the current average caps/pickups ratio and base the punishment on that and not on what pops out from the head.
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Postby divVerent » Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:40 pm

Too bad i can no longer do any statistics, as my server lost its popularity.

Nexuiz players instead want 20 players hook CTF on 10 square meters maps.
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Postby Alien » Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:44 pm

You have (or did you lose?) older statistics. I doubt that average changed a lot.
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Postby divVerent » Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:25 pm

I don't keep log files forever, neither am I allowed to by the laws.
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Postby Alien » Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:31 pm

Maybe we could use dcc stats then.
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Postby divVerent » Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:47 pm

It is simply illegal to even have such old logs, even more, to use them.

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0% (no negative scores for any capture attempts)            
    15%    [ 2 ]
10%            
    15%    [ 2 ]
20%            
    30%    [ 4 ]
30%            
    23%    [ 3 ]
40%            
    7%    [ 1 ]
50% (so every second cap attempt must be successful, or there is negative score)            
    7%    [ 1 ]


Will reset the poll, and make the next one. 20% is the clear winner, maybe 25% will be viable too.
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Postby Alien » Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:40 pm

Logs of ip's (in your country) and not the stats db.
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