nerf nex

[torus]

Speaking of the short range mode, I think it should be changed to something else. Right now, it really doesn't fit in with the rest of the weapon.

[divVerent]

It already is. Slower fire, less spread. Maybe should have even less, though.

[alpha]

THIS
http://fc92.deviantart.com/fs22/f/2008/ ... anberg.jpg

looks FANTASTIC.

I also have been thinking, and I think I know how to make MG more balanced. In fact it's kinda simple. Just make bigger spread.

ON THE OTHER HAND, if you make bigger spread for MG ( so it's like onlyeffective on close range, or medium), it would be logical IMO to make HLAC more accurate ( I mean cmon, laser weapon is ought to be more accurate than traditional, right)

Plus, hlac vs hlac is a *LOT* more fun than MG vs MG. I know it because we've tested it (no-hitscan games). You should try that too, it's awesome.

OK, thats it for now.

PS: Glad that some of the devs are AT LAST paying attention to my thread. Thanks!

[Alien]

And make sg sec one shot ONLY if you all gonna rebalance the weapons. One shot will be way better with lamoot's new model. Hagar sec should be made useful (no decent idea how).

You could also take a look at gauss gun idea for sniper weapon. This way we will have 2 real world designs (nex - rail, new gun - gauss).

[Chubby]

Heh, now an other wep model for the nex? I would still use the 2.3 model because I can't aim with the 2.4 model.

[ai]

Ok, this is getting out of hand. I don't even know what you guys are on.
There are several issues here that all blends into one. Take one thing at a time will you?

Nex:
1. Lowering damage on Nex?
2. New model for Nex?

Camping Rifle:
1. New name? I will call Compulsion rifle for now.
2. New model? Then a completely new. I agree with Morphed that nothing on the current model looks good, all should be scrapped.
3. Finetuning it's use? Hear it's unpredictable.

Machinegun:
I won't even bring up any points as it's fine as it is. Alpha just wants to remove ANY hitscan weapons so that he won't be 'owned' as easily. I am totally against his views. Yet again, I believe he has map like FC and GW in mind. But when it comes to _real_ good maps the MG is just perfectly fine.
People taking FC, GW, Capture City and even Dance, and similar maps in their argument for changing something doesn't have any arguments. That's just how it is.

Shotgun:
Changing sec fire mode? I say no. Morphed have created an awesome model for the shotgun (even better than Lamoots). I don't have the link so I cannot show you, nor do I really know what this model is for, if it is in fact a new shotgun model.
This model has 3 barrels so it fits perfectly in. And I do not want the sec fire mode to change, that's not innovative at all.

Once again, the shotgun can be a deadly weapon if you know how to use it. Nothing needs changing there except for the model.
However, my views on the shotgun have already been mentioned in another thread. (This basically wraps them up)

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Now, I have no idea which of these points are true and what is going on, but let's take one thing at a time.

Nex:
I can go as far as lowering the damage for Nex to 125. No more, that would make it a useless 'powerful sniper weapon'. The model? Well, I suppose it could be changed. I'm not a big fan of the current model for the Nex.

Camping Rifle:
I haven't really tried it out too much so I cannot say much about it other than the model needs a complete renovation. Also, I had a hard time understanding how the weapon worked. Sometime it did fire, sometime it didnt. Sometime I could fire secondary and other times I tried it fired primary. This weapon is very weird to me.
I need to play more with this to understand how the heck it works.

These are my views. I tried organize some stuff around, as you guys might now I'm not the most brightest person and I like things simple. That's why I always am organized, even in RL ^_^

[alpha]

Ok, this is getting out of hand. I don't even know what you guys are on.
There are several issues here that all blends into one. Take one thing at a time will you?

To get better result, related issues should be solved together.

Machinegun:
I won't even bring up any points as it's fine as it is. Alpha just wants to remove ANY hitscan weapons so that he won't be 'owned' as easily. I am totally against his views. Yet again, I believe he has map like FC and GW in mind. But when it comes to _real_ good maps the MG is just perfectly fine.
People taking FC, GW, Capture City and even Dance, and similar maps in their argument for changing something doesn't have any arguments. That's just how it is.

First, you *again* and *again* and *again* keep rising your personal problem with me in absolutely unrelated topics. 'owned' ? Yeah seriously. We're going to finish our nexuiz stats system anytime soon, and you'll see how 'owned' I get, as in finishing in top #1 or top #2 spot every game regardless of players. Anyway this is off topic. If you have a problem with me as a person, vcall/lobby a global kickban for me if you can, or PM me if you want, Otherwise stfu.

Second, when I vocally opose major things on forums (like FC slowdown, nex damage, batshit insane scoring systems), I do it not because I am selfish cunt who likes to bitch, but because when I play on public CTF, numerous players (pros and or noob) complain about these kind of thing in one or the other way. If you have had more of your community on this forum / in irc, you would have noticed it (I say "your" because I am not feeling a part of community, evar).

Third, you and some devs are crazy dreamers totaly otu of touch with reality. Y'all keep saying things like "FC GW suck" , "fullbright skins suck" etc etc. Now heres the facts: FW and GW (and probably mentalspace) are like 3 MOST played evar maps in nexuiz. Got hint? U need a reality check. And fullbirght? Get fucking real? 1. major ladder games all played with sv_defaultplayer_fbskin_* on 2. some people (like me btw) have extremely bad eyesight(vision? no habla inglis) so their(our) eyes start to hurt after sometime playing without fbskins on a dark map like ctf castles. Got hint ? FFS

Shotgun:
Changing sec fire mode? I say no. Morphed have created an awesome model for the shotgun (even better than Lamoots). I don't have the link so I cannot show you, nor do I really know what this model is for, if it is in fact a new shotgun model.
This model has 3 barrels so it fits perfectly in. And I do not want the sec fire mode to change, that's not innovative at all. Once again, the shotgun can be a deadly weapon if you know how to use it. Nothing needs changing there except for the model.
However, my views on the shotgun have already been mentioned in another thread. (This basically wraps them up)

Shotgun, while being hitscan, is OK, because it's specific. Short range and big damage, typical shotty, fine by me.

[Alien]

To ai:

I just mentioned the gun which needs changes most (followed by hagar sec and by hlac insane jump). I've already proved that sec fire mode is useless in comparison to primary one. And no, I'm not asking to nerf the nex - it's ok for me (minstanex isn't).

To alpha:

Public non password protected system means shit in stats cause each xsax can take your name and do nonsense.

Agree, FB skins should be on, but THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED IN GOOD MAPS ( you can use floodfill to fill your map with light and all colours except several (GREY) are bright).


So the sole reason why gameplay sucks is because most maps sucks (saying this 100th time).

[alpha]

I just mentioned the gun which needs changes most. I've already proved that sec fire mode is useless in comparison to primary one. And no, I'm not asking to nerf the nex - it's ok for me (minstanex isn't).

agree, minstanex spawns in non-minsta games make me sick

Btw, while Icarus (and some other ppl) have said that shotty can do up to 180 damage in one sec shot but I haev yet to see such shot ingame O.o

[mand1nga]

Heh, now an other wep model for the nex? I would still use the 2.3 model because I can't aim with the 2.4 model.

Try using the crosshair instead of the model for aiming, its far better