nerf nex

[alpha]

You seem to be most pro here, or what?

Thanks

[Alien]

That was irony. I usually take comments from person who claim to be pro and know everything with a pinch of salt.

[alpha]

That was irony. I usually take comments from person who claim to be pro and know everything with a pinch of salt.

Suit yourself.

[Sepelio]

I dont like playing with the sound off, but it does make you concentrate more on the visual aspect of the game to find your targets rather than trying to hear where they are. I think this may be what Alpha is getting at.

On that note, I hit unrealistic shots anyway

[ai]

@alpha:
First of.. well, could you explain it to us who aren't "pro" please, oh almighty alpha?
By the way, I have never said anything about fullbright stuff. I don't care if things are fullbright or not, I also haven't seen anyone complaining about this either (till just now that you seem to do it). Anyway, I'm not gonna voice my opinion about the fullbrights as I don't really care at all which way.
However, one thing I am going to say is that of course on public FFA servers, fullbright should be off. What's the point in choosing a player model then?

Anyway, to my main point. Nothing in the post I made had any personal attacks or anything to do with you really. But it seems that you really want to cripple all hitscan weapons that can actually deal some heavy damage to you. What picture those that give out do you think?
I don't also care if you're being owned by MG and Nex, I don't even care if you're good with them. But one thing is clear that everyone agrees on, except you apparently. It's that, do NOT change the weapons to fit BAD maps. Change the MAPS to fit the game.
I don't care if GW, FC etc. are the nr.1 favorite maps on the servers, the gameplay STILL sucks. Of course MG and Nex will have a devastating effect on open shot-right-into-the-enemys-base-from-your-own maps.
Maps where you can easily spawnfrag people from your own base are BAD maps. There's nothing else to it.

@Alien:
The shotgun isn't supposed to be all powerful as it is a starting weapon. And honestly, comparing this starting weapon with other games this shotgun is the best. In most games you can hardly frag anyone with that. But the shotty you can kill a freshly spawned player no sweat if you aim good enough and you're close enough (with the sec fire mode of course).
The primary is good for longer range. I often see people to the exact opposite, shot sec when enemy is far away and primary when enemy hugs them, this is very wrong.
I even encounted Kojn do that

[k0jak]

I don't also care if you're being owned by MG and Nex, I don't even care if you're good with them. But one thing is clear that everyone agrees on, except you apparently. It's that, do NOT change the weapons to fit BAD maps. Change the MAPS to fit the game.
I don't care if GW, FC etc. are the nr.1 favorite maps on the servers, the gameplay STILL sucks. Of course MG and Nex will have a devastating effect on open shot-right-into-the-enemys-base-from-your-own maps.
Maps where you can easily spawnfrag people from your own base are BAD maps. There's nothing else to it.


The primary is good for longer range. I often see people to the exact opposite, shot sec when enemy is far away and primary when enemy hugs them, this is very wrong.
I even encounted Kojn do that

ai is completely right just because a map is popular doesn't mean it is good for gameplay. There is nothing wrong with the weapons so much, as for maps that are designed badly that encourage the use of the most powerful weapon/s.

MG is powerful but when used correctly and in the right situation perhaps it may be too strong at times it may seem but it's normally when someone with a great aim uses it, and thats not the weapons fault i guess.

Mappers are making more technical and better maps now with better gameplay, if you want to fix the problems start playing better maps, if you want to have some fun then play other maps it's as simple as that.


Actually i use primary now most of the time but your probably right ai, i love you


and, isn't this going off-topic now quite a bit? this thread seems to have gone on long enough now.

[alpha]

@alpha:
First of.. well, could you explain it to us who aren't "pro" please, oh almighty alpha?

you don't get it you aren't one. Simple as that.

@alpha:
I don't care if GW, FC etc. are the nr.1 favorite maps on the servers.

then why would we care? There are more FW/GW lovers than all of you aww-bad-maps-whiners combined.

just because a map is popular doesn't mean it is good for gameplay.

lolololololololololololololololololololololol LOL. FAIL. just because YOU say that? LOLOLOLO

There is nothing wrong with the weapons so much

says the king of nex whores

Yeah, seriously, VERY unbiased opinion

[ai]

Alpha. One time, Eggandbacon (a map) was popular like crazy. But seriously, do you think it has good gameplay?
You act like you are a god alpha, and you look down on anyone that doesn't even compare to 'your' standards (which frankly is about 98% of the Nexuiz community). I don't take your opinions seriously because of that.

But enough about that. I'm with Kojn, this topic is getting out of hand. Let's get back at it's roots or it might as well end up locked:
Does the Nex need nerfing, Yes or No?
ai: No

[alpha]

ai: no
alpha: yes

next one pick up the whole list and continue

[Alien]

I dont like playing with the sound off, but it does make you concentrate more on the visual aspect of the game to find your targets rather than trying to hear where they are. I think this may be what Alpha is getting at.

On that note, I hit unrealistic shots anyway

Your choice, but you can't hear people then.

@Alien:
The shotgun isn't supposed to be all powerful as it is a starting weapon. And honestly, comparing this starting weapon with other games this shotgun is the best. In most games you can hardly frag anyone with that. But the shotty you can kill a freshly spawned player no sweat if you aim good enough and you're close enough (with the sec fire mode of course).
The primary is good for longer range. I often see people to the exact opposite, shot sec when enemy is far away and primary when enemy hugs them, this is very wrong.
I even encounted Kojn do that

So make laser only as primary weapon. It's nonsense that good old shotgun should be made stupid because it's primary weapon. 3 shot mode, ffs. Yeah, good against noobs who are standing in the corner. Lame against everything else. The thing is that people prefer nex in close combat over sg and this is bad. Like you would fight with sniper rifle in real life.

That was irony. I usually take comments from person who claim to be pro and know everything with a pinch of salt.

Suit yourself.

I never claimed being a "pro" anyway.


ai: no
alpha: yes
alien:
nex - 70 dmg, 0.7 s reload
sniper - 200 dmg, 3 s reload
shotgun - 140 dmg for sec fire, same reload, one shot, higher spread