nerf nex

[torus]

I like Alien's solution, except for the 200 damage part. 200 damage is way too high for a sniper. Since we have headshot detection, 200 could be for a headshot, and something more reasonable for a bodyshot.

[Alien]

I like Alien's solution, except for the 200 damage part. 200 damage is way too high for a sniper. Since we have headshot detection, 200 could be for a headshot, and something more reasonable for a bodyshot.

yeah, exactly. but 3 secs reload is rather high. 140 dmg for body shot and 200 for headshot then.

[torus]

Perhaps. We would really have to see how it works in game though.

I think your damage values for the Nex are ideal though- basically turning it into a shock-rifle type hitscan weapon.

To balance the new sniper however, it would REALLY need to be placed with care, and sparingly. We can't have every player and his mother running around with a sniper rifle.

[alpha]

You both give too much shit about irrelevant stuff.

Reload time is unimportant. What matters is the amount of damage that could be dealt withing a certain exposure period (time to aim and land 1 shot). Some people have it 1-2 seconds like me, I know pros that have around 0.5 seconds.

No point really in nerfing nex if we get another gun that deals 140 damage per exposure.

[ai]

No point really in nerfing nex if we get another gun that deals 140 damage per exposure.

So you're basically saying that there should not exist a weapon that does 140 or more damage in the entire game? If that's true, then nerfing Nex has the absolute wrong reasons and should not even be considered to nerf at all.
That's just one personal opinion that really hasn't anything to do with the whole gameplay and weapon balance.
It's like saying: Don't buy those cookies!
And you ask why and he answers: Cause they are too salty. Add more sugar!
That is a total personal (even biased) opinion that has nothing to do how good the cookies are to anyone else.

Oh and, do not nerf the Nex, just create another weapon which can do 70 or whatever damage. Nex can be the current sniper rifle. I'm really against nerfing Nex, but not against adding another 70 damage weapon (which basically is the same thing only different label.) I'm not against increasing the damage to Nex (or adding longer refire rate to it for that matter).

[alpha]

No point really in nerfing nex if we get another gun that deals 140 damage per exposure.

So you're basically saying that there should not exist a weapon that does 140 or more damage in the entire game? If that's true, then nerfing Nex has the absolute wrong reasons and should not even be considered to nerf at all.
That's just one personal opinion that really hasn't anything to do with the whole gameplay and weapon balance.
It's like saying: Don't buy those cookies!
And you ask why and he answers: Cause they are too salty. Add more sugar!
That is a total personal (even biased) opinion that has nothing to do how good the cookies are to anyone else.

Plenty empty words w/o proof or logical basis. Just personal attacks and accusations...

blah blah blah

anyway, noobs aside, the vote goes on:

Do we ask devs to nerf nex from 140 dmg to 70?

for otherr votes make yourself a thread ( or I will do if this vote succeeds )

alpha:yes
ai:no

You ruin voting = you are faggot.

[alphagod]

No Nex should NOT be nerfed, already talked about it 100 times, Nex is fine as it is, it can be dodged, bit of luck and a lot of prediction is all that's needed.

GW/Face both suck and are the most popular maps because new players and some mediocre players just fail in a technical map, therefore they keep things simple straight paths to bases no walls to use splash on and easy camping/shooting from a very safe distance, it's the exact same reason Mentalspace and Cbctf1 are popular on 6v6 matches, even tough they were probably never meant for more than 2v2/3v3 and each and every game on them is absolute fail because of the insane number of players, low weapon availability and the lack of walls. And since we are at walls removing damage through walls will just make games way better, as you can actually use stuff for cover, not just twelve feet thick reinforced concrete walls, and will make all games less spamy in all game modes.

PS: Adding a shock rifle would be nice only and only if it had the shock core combo
PS2: http://forums.alientrap.local/viewtopic.php?p=45926#45926

alpha:yes
ai:no
alphagod:no

[ai]

Lool, looks like alpha is contradicting himself now or is consciously trying to sabotage Nexuiz with his bad ideas.
However alpha, you still haven't answered my question, and in fact, it is you who attack me. I have never attacked you, I just spoke the truth.
Here's the question I want answered by you: "So you're basically saying that there should not exist a weapon that does 140 or more damage in the entire game?"

[Alien]

PS2: http://forums.alientrap.local/viewtopic.php?p=45926#45926

Lool, looks like alpha is contradicting himself now or is consciously trying to sabotage Nexuiz with his bad ideas.
However alpha, you still haven't answered my question, and in fact, it is you who attack me. I have never attacked you, I just spoke the truth.
Here's the question I want answered by you: "So you're basically saying that there should not exist a weapon that does 140 or more damage in the entire game?"

Actually, yes (to prevent spam killing). Or in the worst case have very high reload time.

[Komier]

Komier: Yes, nex should be made weaker. Already another sniper for high damage+long range, nex could be more multi-purpose.

BTW: When I play it's probably close to 70% audio 30% visual. I like prediction.

Also, pro just means you play for money. >.> "professional" That makes me good because I used to have $5 bets on games with my friends when I was a newbie?