Nexuiz Etiquette: Type fragging

[halogene]

I try to avoid hitting people that type, in any case. This applies even when I am about to take the flag and somebody is typing in the enemy base near to the flag. If I accidentally frag or hit somebody that is typing, I apologize.

When being hit or fragged while typing I usually just ignore it. What's the point of complaining? I am trying to be polite, and appreciate others to be polite but do not expect them to be.

Exceptions are playing (serious) 1on1 matches or for example when I am hiding somewhere really far away from everything and some enemy sees me, walks up to me (those players rarely bunnyhop) and then frags me with a shotgun in my face while I am still typing. This is extremely seldom, as a) those players usually don't get as far as that, b) I am usually not typing THAT long and c) I usually don't get out of way much for typing anyway.

I mean, it's a game, right?

[Sepelio]

In ctf matches on the pubs I tend not to typefrag unless under specific conditions. If the enemy are sitting in my base typing, they die.

If I have the flag and there is an enemy typing nearby, they die. Leaving them there would be a stupid risk.

In CTF on the pubs I talk a lot, but I type extremely fast so it doesnt make too much of a difference.

In 1v1's typing is a silly choice unless you are faaaarrr out of the way. Or dead.

[ai]

What would you do if an enemy had the flag and he was typing? Would you frag him/her?

[halogene]

well yeah ok in that case I really would typefrag, I guess. Though I might probably tease him with a single laser shot first so that the fc might stop typing and defend himself instead. I think I did that once already... but really, being fc and getting caught typing, that's really stupid.

[Sepelio]

What would you do if an enemy had the flag and he was typing? Would you frag him/her?

Yes. Typing with the flag is akin to suicide imo.

[RoKenn]

Typefragging intentionally is really bad manners, with the exception of special situations (like enemy in the middle of your base).

theres this wonderful thing called irc, use it, stop turning a fps into a chat room

You are hopefully aware that typing includes things like:

* helping someone who is new to the game
* just saying that 4 vs 8 is not really a balanced game
* typing "vcall kickban permanent_teamfragger" in the console

But I agree for people who really confuse Nexuiz with an IRC tool and start chatting about their favorite noodle dishes while playing on a full server. In that case typefragging them is ok in my opinion.

typefragging imo is fair game, right of way goes to the fraggers
not the typers
its hard for me to respect someone who is offended by being killed in a videogame when they were voluntarily helpless

That makes me wonder why the devs implemented the keyboard symbol in the first place then. So if someone tries to improve the game play by kicking a trouble maker that gives you the right to frag him while being busy?

It's hard for me to respect someone who has to frag typing people to increase his score.

[Alien]

There is no real consensus. People should act the way their conscience says it is right.

[Fnilp]

That makes me wonder why the devs implemented the keyboard symbol in the first place then.

To, uhm, signify when someone is chatting or has the console down? So you can that even though they're not moving, they're doing something?

That argumentation is like saying "I wonder why the scoreboard displays the pings... hmm... it MUST be so you cut slack to players with bad connections". Well, no, not necessarily.

So if someone tries to improve the game play by kicking a trouble maker that gives you the right to frag him while being busy?

How can you automatically assume that every time it's something SUPER IMPORTANT like "kicking a trouble maker"? Why not assume it's something that probably could have waited until the player died "naturally", before respawning?

Why not assume it's typing "LOL, I farted" for the 10th time?

Seriously, what could one possible type that would deserve any protection? "DON'T SHOOT, IT'S A MISUNDERSTANDING?" But there is no game mode where that would be needed. There is NEVER ever something to negotiate with your enemies, and teammates usually don't shoot each other anyway.

So.. uhm?

Yes, if you typekill in a 1vs1 or other very small games you're an idiot. But that goes without saying. If someone in a big firefight stops to say "n1 haha" and gets killed (* that would usually be me) that is the natural flow of things and never a biggie.... if it IS a biggie, If you're that bad to get worked up over one death/frag typekillers are not your problem, and if you type that much to get typekilled all the time you should try IRC.

IMHO, which happens to be correct. No consensus required.

* I often stop to chat in the middle of a fight. It's idiotic, it's cocky, and I don't mind a bit when I get fragged while doing it. If anything, I feel it's bad sportmanship to be so easy prey!

It's hard for me to respect someone who has to frag typing people to increase his score.

What? You could say that when someone asks someone, then kills the dude replying.. but otherwise it's not like there's players hiding in the rafters to drop down for the kill as soon as someone starts to chat..

[TVR]

That makes me wonder why the devs implemented the keyboard symbol in the first place then.

To, uhm, signify when someone is chatting or has the console down? So you can that even though they're not moving, they're doing something? ...

There is only one possible use to the knowledge someone is typing, which is for others to avoid unsportsmanlike conduct.

... Why not assume it's typing "LOL, I farted" for the 10th time? ...

Logical fallacy, the actual activity performed is irrelevant to the purpose of a notification.

... There is NEVER ever something to negotiate with your enemies, ...

Keyhunt, the basis of the game mode is shifting alliances.

[ai]

That makes me wonder why the devs implemented the keyboard symbol in the first place then.

To, uhm, signify when someone is chatting or has the console down? So you can that even though they're not moving, they're doing something? ...

There is only one possible use to the knowledge someone is typing, which is for others to avoid unsportsmanlike conduct.

Actually Fnilp is correct here. The chat bubble only signifies that someone is "probably" doing something, with other words, typing. One could pull the console down and then go to the bathroom etc. (I used to do that) Which in this case didn't mean I typed or was active.
However, the chat bubble doesn't necessarily have to mean 'Don't shoot me', even _if_ the devs implemented it with that goal in mind.
There is and always will be more than one possible use of the chat bubble.

But personally I say... How cares about typefrags anyway, it's rather stupid to care. It's a game, it's meant to kill people. This is always how I've thought about this and suppose always will. But I do conduct in a rather 'respectable' manner anyway.