lol, people spreading false myths about new physics

[Red Dragon]

I want to add a few things.

The run

race_ovalrace: Red Dragon 0:05.6

is not the best you can do with old physics. I did 4.8 some time ago, but it was done locally.

I also tried teachers with old physics and got 32.x with little effort (5-10 tries).
These times fit into div's statistic. (sorry for showing-off )

The new physics are indeed slower, which is really annoying (for me) on large maps.

On the contrary, they feel better on small maps and some trickjumps became surprisingly easy. Thus I think 1on1 gameplay will be better while ctf/race gets slightly worse.

EDIT: about the "impossible" jump on test99. Is that the one over the slime? For me its possible... but the rocketboosting is impossible for me.

[divVerent]

Oh, you manage to pull off the slime jump?

Because, I can do the rocket launcher part, it's trivial for me

I'll put the map back in then. I thought the new physics broke the slime jump...

[Red Dragon]

Are you using the 2.5 rocketlauncher? I cant even keep the current height.
Lower radius and damage make the boost very weak.

[Icarus]

what Red Dragon said about ctf and race getting worse with new physics and 1v1 and dm getting better pretty much sums up my perspective too. It works extremely well for 1v1s.

[divVerent]

Red Dragon: yes, I was using the 2.5 rocketlauncher, on my server. It IS possible. If needed, I can show you, it's really not hard.

However, it takes me ages to get there, as I have to take the noob paths for the first and the second part.

[Red Dragon]

I tried test99 on Lazy Dog. MUCH easier there. The Rocketlauncher on my local svn server can't be the same as on LazyDog. Can you check this, pls?

[divVerent]

You yourself can check it: "cmd cvar_changes" lists all changed server settings.

My servers run the original weapon settings.

See for yourself:

// this server runs at modified settings:
bot_prefix "[Dave]" // "[BOT]"
bot_suffix " {X}" // ""
capturelimit_override "7" // "-1"
g_balance_kill_delay "0" // "5"
g_balance_teams "1" // "0"
g_maplist_check_waypoints "1" // "0"
g_maplist_mostrecent_count "0" // "3"
g_maplist_shuffle "3" // "1"
g_maplist_votable "3" // "6"
g_maplist_votable_abstain "1" // "0"
g_maplist_votable_suggestions "1" // "2"
g_respawn_delay "0" // "2"
g_showweaponspawns "1" // "0"
g_spawnshieldtime "2" // "0"
g_start_delay "0" // "15"
g_turrets_reloadcvars "0" // "1"
newestmaps "test99 vert_rc1 nexrun2_v1r3 opposingcastles10 hypergallery11" // "(not generated yet)"
prvm_errordump "1" // "0"
rescan_pending "0" // "1"
skill "5" // "1"
sv_foginterval "5" // "0"
sv_maxidle "600" // "0"
sv_ready_restart "1" // "0"
sv_vote_commands "restart fraglimit chmap gotomap endmatch reducematchtime extendmatchtime allready kick autobalance nobots movetoteam_red movetoteam_blue movetoteam_yellow movetoteam_pink movetoteam_auto allready say" // "restart fraglimit chmap gotomap endmatch reducematchtime extendmatchtime allready kick cointoss movetoteam_auto"
sv_vote_master "0" // "1"
sv_vote_master_commands "kickban mute" // "movetoteam_red movetoteam_blue movetoteam_yellow movetoteam_pink"
sv_vote_simple_majority_factor "0.666" // "0"
sv_writepicture_quality "100" // "10"
timelimit_override "15" // "-1"
timelimit_suddendeath "2" // "5"

[GreEn`mArine]

so what exactly is so much easier now in 1v1 with the "new physics" anyway?

[Red Dragon]

@ green:
soylent: Rampjump near the pad to the megahealth
aggressor: Rampjump on border of the stairs from the 4x 5hp packs to megahealth
close to practicable in a match.

[divVerent]

Generally: dodging shots.