Nexuiz & CPMA Movement ?

[Wolfseye]

Having different physics as an option certainly is OK, but as they should be done server-side it would basically split the community again into players using servers with CPMA physics (aka Q3 players who can't be arsed to learn Nexuiz' movement) and the other players who like/already did like the normal movement...

That red marked line is a little bit unfair I think. It still is different to play Nexuiz or Q3, and someoneone that does prefer Q3 (because of the Movement of CPMA for example) shouldn´t be forced to either stay with Q3 or just learn something else, but given a choice (if possible) to adapt the Game / Server to his wishes. So if there are some Servers that would run CPMA physics, so what ? There are different Mods out for Q3, and seeing Nexuiz now as a full Game, why not have Mods that do just that, give the player something different but still being the same Game.

Noone says that the overall physics of Nexuiz should change, but maybe just give an alternative. The more choice you give people, the more attractive is a Game to people. Those that prefer Q3:CPMA now, would maybe even think about checking out Nexuiz more often, since there they could then also have a choice of using a CPMA kinda physics in Nexuiz and can stick kinda with that movement what they like most.

As Nexuiz is a free Game, I think it would bring more Q3 Fans to Nexuiz.

[divVerent]

When we copy the smallest thing from warsow, we get loudly accused for "RIPPING US OFF" by the whole warsow player base.

I don't think you're being fair with them, divVerent. I've never seen something like that happening, and they wouldn't be bashing you more than they bash me anyway

Whenever a Nexuiz version is announced on any website, all the warsow trolls come and post 500 comments about how much Nexuiz sucks and Warsow is better.

Doesn't happen the other way round...

[divVerent]

Anyway, for this we'd need to know what CPMA physics exactly IS.

[Wolfseye]

When we copy the smallest thing from warsow, we get loudly accused for "RIPPING US OFF" by the whole warsow player base.

I don't think you're being fair with them, divVerent. I've never seen something like that happening, and they wouldn't be bashing you more than they bash me anyway

Whenever a Nexuiz version is announced on any website, all the warsow trolls come and post 500 comments about how much Nexuiz sucks and Warsow is better.

Doesn't happen the other way round...

Knowing that this Quote wasn´t ment for me, i repeat that anything I posted here about this idea of mine (which I saw isn´t really new *LOL* ) was not to say that Warsow or CPMA is better. Nexuiz is really cool as it is, and if you ask me, in many aspects Nexuiz has become a lot better than other Free Games (subjective oppinion of myself of course).

I just thought adding something similiar with physics would attract even more people to Nexuiz. But you´re right, without knowing how the actual Physics of CPMA for example would be, its pure speculation.

I suppose you won´t take the risk and talk to the Devs of CPMA (Promode) about that ? I mean its from one free Developer to another, its not about Industry secrets. Maybe they can give you a rough overview of how the CPMA Physics is like. I always say that there is no shame in asking, rather than ripping off.

[esteel]

Well take a look at the different physic*.cfg files and try to adapt one to match cpma as close as possible, Nexuiz is quite flexible there.. as DivVerent said without the sources its impossible to 'find out by looking at the sources'...

[Wolfseye]

Like I said, there is no Shame in asking, from one Dev to another. Especially if its not in the Retail Market. Its hard sometimes to overcome one selfs pride and just try to ask someone else. I doubt they would bite or make fun of one because of that.

Just a thought. But hey, i am just suggesting, not more.

[divVerent]

CPMA looks pretty dead. No point in asking them now. This should have been done like 3 years ago.

And is it really worth it? Is CPMA movement even different AT ALL from Q3 movement, except for parameters? Take a look at physicsQ3.cfg in Nexuiz. Can it be adapted to match CPMA?

[Wolfseye]

No offence, but from what I see atm (and thats just lunch time currently) there are around 380 active players currently playing CPMA. And in the evening I am sure you can get on maybe twice.

Now lets see, according to Qtracker, currently 139 players are playing Nexuiz. Also lets calculate that for the evening times, you maybe get around 300, I don´t know that for certain. But I would say its still more played. Also considering since when Q3 is out and people still play it, there are not many Games of these times that are still played that much.

Currently, overall at this time, according to Qtracker, there are over 1300 players still playing Q3 & Mods. And I am sure in the evening you can double that or maybe at least make that 2000. I know many so called new & fancy Games that don´t even have half of that, though they are new and so much more shiny and fancy. So I think its still worth asking them. What can you loose ? Nothing.

I don´t know to what degree the .cfg´s in Nexuiz can be adapted, i am not that kinda guy. I am more the player, not the config-master.

But if it wouldn´t hurt you to ask, whats the problem in just doing that ? Hey, you don´t have to do it for me if noone else is interested. I am just trying to tell you that in my oppinion it could attract more people to Nexuiz, especially those coming of the CPMA / OSP etc. scene. Its a try. On the long run i would always try to please as many people as possible, to ensure the stability of a Game / Software.

Nexuiz in my oppinion has already bigger potential on the long run, than many other Free OpenSource Shooter Games. That being sad, it can only get better and better.

[divVerent]

Why should _I_ ask if I don't even want the feature?

YOU are the guy who wants it. It is YOUR turn to provide the means to do it. That's how it works.

Sorry for thinking CPMA is dead, I misread the 2009 in the news item as 2008 in that tiny font they use.

[C.Brutail]

especially those coming of the CPMA / OSP etc.

No offense, but we're already stating to fill with assholes... I don't think we need more from the hordes of arrogant 1337 fragmachines.