Balancing changes, Guided missiles, Weapon balance tests

[Flying Steel]

Tested for a bit with clanmate.

110 dmg nex = fine
guided RL = fine, looks very awesome, maybe reduce damage a bit because really hard to dodge

What maps did you test it on?

I ask because, the scenarios of engagements with this weapon should be important information here, since the new rocket launcher settings might make it more or less effective at close, medium and long range, or in tunnels, fields, etc.

[alpha]

facing,
thegreatdivide,
geitctf,
cpmctf

[tundramagi]

Tested for a bit with clanmate.

110 dmg nex = fine
guided RL = fine, looks very awesome, maybe reduce damage a bit because really hard to dodge

Ah, so You're the reason that I rarely play nexuiz with default weapons settings!

I play with enhanced damage settings because the pull of your complaints make the weapons pathetic across the board.

(Oh I just got hit directly with a high powered explosive! Still standing!)
(Oh a grenade exploded on my foot! Just a scratch!)
(Oh I just got ran through by a rail gun projectile... not dead!)

guided RL = fine, looks very awesome, maybe reduce damage a bit because really hard to dodge

Read: alpha got pwnd by his fellow clansman, nerf the RL.

[alpha]

A bit of a follow up.

Look divverent I know that you have ideological issues with model makers and map makers and who else you hate. But for once, if you want your changes tested on your lazy dog servers, this is what you will do:

1. make fullbright skins on. NO ONE CAN'T SEE SHIT, PRONTO!? I don't know how to make you understand this.
2. remove vote quantity restrictions (the not-so-funny stuff about server vcalling a kick against you after several votes)
3. clean up the map pool (optional, but would be nice). Gazillion maps with 80% of them mikeusa crap and impossible to vote last map? really?

Until you dont make decent environment you are not getting any testing/feedback from me my clan.

[divVerent]

If you're votespamming, you deserve the kick.

If you refuse to play there, don't complain when your opinions are ignored. Your very own fault.

As for fbskins: this is NOT ideological issues with model makers. No, it's model makers not wanting their models being displayed that way. They work hard to make normalmaps, and want them shown. If you make morphed tell me that I should set fullbright players, I'll do it.

And no, it's not ME who wants the changes to be tested. I am not asking YOU a favor to test the changes. I am giving you the CHANCE to do it. If you do not want to use that chance, this is your decision - but then don't say you haven't been given the chance.

As for the voting: there is NINE maps to vote from. At least THREE of them are not utter crap, whatever the random generator decides. Why not just make use of your vote and stop complaining?

[alpha]

If you're votespamming, you deserve the kick.

Dude I was just vcalling a map after we figured that current one is no good :/ And then someone else vcalled, AND GOT A VOTE AGAINST HIM TOO. He was _NOT_ vcalling any votes before that.

If you refuse to play there, don't complain when your opinions are ignored. Your very own fault.

How are we supposed to play when half of people cant AIM and other half cant SEE stuff??? Tell me?

And no, it's not ME who wants the changes to be tested. I am not asking YOU a favor to test the changes.

Well how about you dont force us to test stuff in GHETTO environment so we also have _FUN_ testing it ?

[divVerent]

Everyone having the very same green robot skin is NOT fun. Especially in team games.

Votespamming is starting a map vote in the first minute of a game. YOU JUST HAD A MAJORITY VOTING FOR THIS MAP, NO POINT VOTING FOR ANOTHER ONE, RETARD.

As for not SEEING stuff - odd that you're the only one who complains. If lightgrid sucks on a map (like facing worlds), I set up the mapinfo file to set fullbright players (BUT NOT, NEVER, FBSKINS) on that map.

And I am not forcing you to test anything. Go ruin some other game's community. Please, delete Nexuiz from your hard drive and play Quake Live with the other retards. They'll welcome you back.

[alpha]

Votespamming is starting a map vote in the first minute of a game. YOU JUST HAD A MAJORITY VOTING FOR THIS MAP, NO POINT VOTING FOR ANOTHER ONE, RETARD.

Well my majority (there were 4 players on server: [iO]alpha, [iO]waterlaz, [iO]edwin, [iO]s0rk) had needed around 25 second to figure out that map sucks and we agreed for chmap but noo, ghetto rules won't allow.

And I am not forcing you to test anything.

But you are forcing changes no one can properly test. Nice one.

Go ruin some other game's community. Please, delete Nexuiz from your hard drive and play Quake Live with the other retards.

Frankly, I don't think you've lived long enough in this world to tell me what to do.

They'll welcome you back.

I have never played QL Shows how much you know about me.

also, "RETARD" ? fuck you

[Flying Steel]

As for fbskins: this is NOT ideological issues with model makers. No, it's model makers not wanting their models being displayed that way. They work hard to make normalmaps, and want them shown. If you make morphed tell me that I should set fullbright players, I'll do it.

I for one agree whole-heartedly. What is the point of having Nexuiz' advanced graphics engine if you just use fullbright craptasticness anyway?

Map makers simply need to adequately light maps, or players who have vision issues should turn up the ambient light to compensate.

As for the voting: there is NINE maps to vote from. At least THREE of them are not utter crap, whatever the random generator decides. Why not just make use of your vote and stop complaining?

Curious, does lazy dog cycle through all of the Nexuiz maps available out there, or only ones that have met certain requirements?

[divVerent]

All maps. But out of 9, there's always some good ones. VOTE FOR THEM.