Confessions of a typefragger

[Sepelio]

I don't shoot people who are chatting -most- of the time unless:

-They have the flag
-Are in my base

I had someone COMPLAIN before when they had the flag and were hiding and chatting and I fragged them. What did they really expect?

I also give people who have not killed me if I have been typing a couple of seconds leeway as if I hadn't spotted them. I guess you should all try to be more like me

[paperclips]

As I have stated before: Typefrags are TOTALLY not ACCEPTABLE.

First of all, you don't ever turn your ass towards another player. Thats just asking for a paddling/shafting.

If a player is typing in the middle of the road, just have some target practice with the laser/try to hit the player with some harder secondary, point is, just move the player..
Fighting around a typing player is also really fun and is the opponent retarded enough to go after a easy kill rather than concentrating fire on you, that idiot got it coming.

The player can have many good reasons for typing in the first place, such as "oh hai im a noob with a question, I can has enlightenment plox?" , configuring the settings so playing is actually possible, answering the noobs question, configuring the server, taking care of that whole afk-serious-bidniss and so on.

There might just be a lot more to gain than getting one easy frag.
Playing for other things than the fraglimit, that the game is more about the health of the community, which is the foundation for making/having a good game.
A new long term player. Showing that a truly good player gotta have a certain code. That code that can be the difference, in the long term, between having lots of victims or players that evolves with respect and in return gives respect. In other words a vaccine against asshatry and elitism.

Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle. -- Plato

[halogene]

Oh cool, are we starting this epic ethic discussion again? I am in!

I do not have fun to shoot fish in a barrel. Typefragging is very similar, so I don't.

If someone did not shoot me while I was typing I don't shoot him until I moved out of sight, since I feel it is a very sportsman-like gesture not to frag me while I am typing. If someone frags me I don't care at all, though I will respect people exercising sportsmanship a lot more since such people demonstrate that having fun is what the game is about for them too and I can't stand people that need to win no matter what.

As for people abusing the chat situation I didn't notice that up to now, but if I would I could imagine me telling them that I will frag them the next time I see them typing.

[PinkRobot]

I'm with paperclips on this one. But I'm a DM only player and most of these 'annoyances' seem to occur primarily on CTF servers.

So, just stop playing CTF and come back to DM... Or play Nexball.

[ai]

So, the bottom line is, there is no answer. Typefrag or not, everyone has their own opinion. Just because one typefrags doesn't mean he/she wants to win no matter what. I am polite even though I typefrag sometimes. And I'm certainly not a guy that wants to 'win all the time'.

The player can have many good reasons for typing in the first place, such as "oh hai im a noob with a question, I can has enlightenment plox?" , configuring the settings so playing is actually possible, answering the noobs question, configuring the server, taking care of that whole afk-serious-bidniss and so on.

Good reason or not, you can still help the guy even if you shoot him when typing. If I see someone need help with something and that I can help, I will help, even if I shoot him typing.

Still, you guys haven't answered my question if this "problem" exists in other games.
Just because one typefrags doesn't mean the community sucks.

[tZork]

If someone did not shoot me while I was typing I don't shoot him until I moved out of sight, since I feel it is a very sportsman-like gesture not to frag me while I am typing. If someone frags me I don't care at all, though I will respect people exercising sportsmanship a lot more since such people demonstrate that having fun is what the game is about for them too and I can't stand people that need to win no matter what.

Agree, totally.

However, i also see ppl "chatting" and then plugging my ass full of led once i pass em fairly often. And it does bug me, so does ppl typefragging when you obviously went outa the way to type something.

I dont think typefragging as praxis is ok, but if you pause you ass in the middle of a battlefield to write a novel.. well dont get surprised if you get shot. For me its like this: either what your typing is important enough for getting fragged not to matter or you wait until your dead anyway / find a outa the way place to type.

I cant imagine any working solution by gamelogic, every scenario i can imagine is just to easy to abuse and/or disruptive. Perhaps forcing ppl who only type for a certin time to spectator mode.. but i think that will do little to help this problem.

[Samual]

BTW, I added typefrag information into frag messages... e.g. the normal frag message is ^4You fragged ^7<blah>, the typefragged one is ^1You typefragged ^7<blah>.... It also shows similar information for the person who was killed. But well, i'm very much so against making any type of shield for someone who is typing. That is a VERY VERY VERY bad idea. One example is in a 1v1... The person could simply kill the other player and get a small lead, and then just type the whole match and win. (Of course, no one I know would do that. But well, there are other similar situations where I believe it would in fact happen.. domination for example.)

To be honest, I hold true to the "Stop complaing, you're the one who was typing in the first place" argument. Although I do expect people to not typefrag when asked not to (I obey this, at least).

[Sven]

cool story
i think ist a bad idea but it could be a good(for me) if nexuiz check that the player isreally chatting and not just a protection using flag carrier or what else and not invulnerable only transparent or make THE FUCKING CHATBUBBLE BIGGER AND RED WITH THE WORDS "I'M TYPING PLEASE DON'T FRAG ME!" or something else the chatbullbe is very small and often cantrastless to the background like the teambubble

[Mirio]

such a topic got already locked http://forums.alientrap.local/viewtopic.php?t=4152 ...

Anyway. If someone has a question - a) Forum , b) IRC c) Spectate d) stay in base
Also e) if you just died.. you can not get killed!

Next time i run into the enemys base and then i start typing and moan after they kill me!!1!
Its only 1 frag meh.

I mean.. imagine you are a soldier and fighting in iraq or somewhere else .. "hey wait..don't shoot - let me write a mail to family ok?"

WTF

[Yoda almighty]

what if type frags simply didn't count toward final score?