Confessions of a typefragger

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Postby ai » Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:43 pm

Yeah, typefragging is ok, but not frag someone who types is respect. Both are good and both are individual choices.
I generally don't typefrag but I sometimes do. If I know I can get away or know that that person doesn't pose a threat to me even if he wasn't typing I leave them alone.
But if it's someone who I know is a threat, I will dispose off.

However sometimes it just depends on in what mood I am. :P

But clearly paperclips, what you see as asshatry isn't asshatry to me. Thus why I think typefragging is ok. I'm starting to think it boils down to how sensitive one is.
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Postby Samual » Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:23 pm

@paperclips: IDLYSFIOOYO = I don't like you so figure it out on your own. :P (No really, that's what it is. I invented it, steal it and I keeeel you.)

BTW guys, seriously you're still on this subject? IMO it should just be: "You're the one who was typing, deal with it."
Do it yourself, or stop complaining.
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Postby ai » Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:52 pm

Samual wrote:BTW guys, seriously you're still on this subject? IMO it should just be: "You're the one who was typing, deal with it."

No other fun threads to waste my time on, you know.
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Postby Flying Steel » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:05 am

I don't usually type frag on purpose, even though I play CTF most of the time.

But I really don't see how anything can be considered wrong with typefrags, since it is the only clean solution to a situation.

Because alot of typing noobs when they see you probably reflexively stop typing and start shooting as fast as possible, which for them means it takes about as long for you to notice they are typing and start to move one, so that they end up unintentionally backstabbing you.

And then there are alot of people who intentionally backstab as well I believe.

So the most fair, clean and sensible solution is for everyone to follow game theory here and just shoot all hostiles, regardless of circumstance.
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Postby divVerent » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:52 am

ai wrote:Why is it that people even see typefragging as a bad thing? What do people expect when they play a game, not to be killed?
Come on people, sure the Nexuiz community is friendly but to associate the behavior of ALL players on the servers as 'Nexuiz community' is stupid. What happens on the servers is part of the game. Yes, people should still be nice and all but that one who thought that typefragging is "rude" should honestly be typefragged. It is a _game_.

Typefrags are ok. People who cannot handle being killed in a game shouldn't play the game.


It being rude, but also being acceptable in a game don't exclude each other.

It is simply a matter of respect. Typefragging is nothing more or less than showing disrespect which is quite normal in such a game (but this doesn't make it a good thing). The only things ban-worthy are "backstabbing" (showing the typing sign so people ignore me, then fragging them as they turn away) and "typekill-faking" (showing the typing sign right before a rocket hits me so the other gets the typefrag sound and possibly other punishment).

So yes, I can handle being typefragged, but it lowers my opinion of the guy who does it (when done repeatedly, that is). And I think it's the same for most others here.
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Postby divVerent » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:59 am

ai wrote:1. Typefrags doesn't always mean one extra/free frag. It can simply mean that people do not trust them and that they wanna get rid of them as not to be backstabbed or risk jeopardizing their base security.


Inside your base, or near the enemy flag, or even when the typer carries the flag, it's a whole different story. When you have a good reason BESIDES the guy being a simple and free frag, sure, frag him. Which also means: if you want to chat, go to a safer place than where action concentrates. I do NOT consider this a real typefrag then... if you stand in the enemy base near their flag post, and start typing, don't be surprised if an enemy kills you as he assumes you're waiting for the flag to come back. Also, a common rule from other games is that for typing, you should face the wall so people can see you're not part of the action at the moment (by this, the enemy can also see that you aren't going to backstab).

But, if someone is e.g. at the back side of HIS base of facing worlds, looks against the building, and has the typing sign, and you then walk there and frag him, it IS a clear evil typefrag.
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Postby divVerent » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:07 am

ai wrote:Yeah, typefragging is ok, but not frag someone who types is respect. Both are good and both are individual choices.
I generally don't typefrag but I sometimes do. If I know I can get away or know that that person doesn't pose a threat to me even if he wasn't typing I leave them alone.
But if it's someone who I know is a threat, I will dispose off.


But well, then you are doing the very right thing. When typing, just make it appear to others that you are no threat to them. Do not start typing in the enemy base, holding their flag, standing on a nex spawn, facing the teleport to get to that room, and then whine about the evil typefraggers.

And when others see you're not a threat, they're less likely to frag you - just like you are writing now.

I wonder if the opinions which fight each other here are so much different at all...
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Postby Vordreller » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:58 am

I support typefragging in all it's forms.
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Postby Yoda almighty » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:16 am

i like the idea idea of just having a message when you typefrag. maybe there could also be a message when you backstab, say if you make a frag less than 5 seconds after typing. that way, if there is someone that is continually typefraging or backstabbing (which IMO is the only time it's a problem), they can be dealt with accordingly.

i generally try not to type frag. i have done it by accident though. i got called a "typefragging bitch" :P
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Postby ai » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:26 am

Yoda almighty wrote:maybe there could also be a message when you backstab, say if you make a frag less than 5 seconds after typing.

Bad idea. For instance, I have been known to type in my base and generally chatting, then an enemy shows and at the moment I finished and I kill him within seconds. Then I would get the backstabbing title even though I didn't know there was an enemy till the very last moment.
Plus with more people on the server and chaos all around same situation would probably appear there.
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