IllFonic's Nexuiz

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You guys need to quit putting your proverbial heads in the sand about this. Yes Nexuiz has been licensed to IllFonic however you don't really have any legal say, the fact that Kedhrin has even put forth the effort to post this thread is proof of his desire to include the community in some way heck, he may even offer beta discs for people on this community to test, we don't know. Quit nurfing this guy for being considerate of your opinion and shut up about him "stealing" the Nexuiz name (which he DID NOT do) Also I'm sorry my first post as an actual member had to be negative toward the community but this needed to be said.

[C.Brutail]

Hello, and welcome to the forum!

Note taken, as it represents another point of view.

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I remember something similar to this discussion when Splash Damage was hired by id and Activision to develop ETQW (which was going to be a TC for Quake 4) however that topic is long gone.

[Aleator]

I'm not sure that someone in the community would want those discs. Plus you speak like that because you didn't put any work into the game (so, the name), but think about those that wasted hundreds of hours trying to raise this game's quality.

BTW, I just downloaded the SVN. I'm starting to look around and maybe start implementing a small feature for the beginning,

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It's generally considered bad form to release a derivative of a GPL work without crediting the developers of the original work. It's not a REQUIRMENT of the GPL to credit, it's just polite. Would many Nezuis contributors have less of a problem with Console Nexuiz if they were named somewhere in the credits? This wouldn't mean IllFonic would have to give away any commercial rights to anything but might remove some of the 'stolen' stigma.

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Look, I've spent thousands of hours working on my own engine, I know what kind of effort went into this project. However I also know that contribution doesn't guarantee you'll get complete say in what happens. Truthfully anyone who contributes to a project like this is a pawn for the real people in charge (the AT ). You don't see people over at Polycount complaining about id using some of their concepts as a base for a project (in fact they are usually flattered) you people are just to attached to your toy, it's time to let it go and see it grow up.


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Also, the source code is GPL'd not the name, if a big name company like EA came buy and gave you a C&D because you are using the name of a project they just started guess what! The courts will automatically side with EA if a suit starts because they own the Trademark.

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You guys need to quit putting your proverbial heads in the sand about this. Yes Nexuiz has been licensed to IllFonic however you don't really have any legal say, the fact that Kedhrin has even put forth the effort to post this thread is proof of his desire to include the community in some way heck, he may even offer beta discs for people on this community to test, we don't know. Quit nurfing this guy for being considerate of your opinion and shut up about him "stealing" the Nexuiz name (which he DID NOT do) Also I'm sorry my first post as an actual member had to be negative toward the community but this needed to be said.

Welcome to forums
Now STFU , Just kidding

You may want to introduce yourself before telling us to shut up and you would probably feel differently if you had a vested interest in Nexuiz.

[MirceaKitsune]

Please change the name. This hijacking of the name is what upsets people the most, you could turn it around by doing this one thing.

The only thing Kedhrin / Illfonic says when asked about that is "I have no more comments to make about the name". In other words, the easier and nicer way of saying "NO!" I'm still waiting for some other answer from them, if Illfonic will ever give one. I am calm, just what I am seeing.

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So? hundreds of people had already contributed to the old ET:QW project and guess what? it was all thrown away however they didn't moan and groan about it like this community they shrugged their shoulder's like grown ups and started another project (can't remember what it was)

[Kedhrin]

Thanks for the responses.

As I said before, the name will remain Nexuiz for now. This will not change right now. It is not up for debate. We as IllFonic want you guys to be apart of our community and to be happy. Some things we cannot do. If the name not changing is one of those things, I cannot do anything to change your mind. I am sorry - but it is what it is. If you think an NDA is useless and how it prevents me from saying things is an excuse - i have nothing to say to you either. I appreciate those of you who are asking us about the name change and giving suggestions very politely. Please understand we are not going to change the name right now.

This thread was hijacked about complaints about us taking the name, which should have been brought to me in private or on another thread - not blasted on a thread where people will look to it for information on what we are doing. THIS is why it was locked. It is not a censorship issue. If I wanted to censor you, I would've just deleted the thread. I can be a complete dick and flex my muscle but I'm not going to do that, that is not our company lifestyle. People are insulting us on our own areas as well. We do not delete these things. We are professionals.

This thread was intended for information for players who actually do want to know what we are doing with the console version, give their feedback and see how things were going. This has been ruined for those people. Many people have PM'd me in private with these relevant questions and I have responded to them politely and respectfully. If I see a relevant question posted on here, I will respond. I have been being very nice to everyone so far. If you don't see that, I have nothing to say to you. I ask anyone who has something to say about the project we are doing, please contact me in private or even another thread and I will be more than happy to answer your questions (except on the name, legal or confidential information).

I came on the IRC channel and was way willing to talk about the project and what we are doing (http://nexuizfiles.com/illfonic/kedhrin ... iscussion/) - BTW I am not the Lead Programmer
I am already talking about WAY more than any other publisher would ever talk to you guys about. Most people in the industry would call me insane for even getting on your IRC room and opening myself up like I am to an open source community. But I did it and I'm trying. I'm hearing from all over my peers in the industry to just stop talking to you guys but I insist on not giving up. This is not marketing mumbo-jumbo. If you don't believe it, I cannot convince you.

If you want to threaten me with press threats or otherwise, I have nothing to say to you. Do what you want, I wont even try to stop you.

We have many things planned for the community existing, including giving away some of our hard work on the source code - for free, crediting the original community in the credits (as supplied by the community) as well as Beta Invites and potentially free copies of the game. These are things I can talk about and want to talk about. As well as much much more, including features, how we work, what our work flow is etc.

But, if you choose to ignore this, i will gladly return the favor and ignore you.

Thanks.