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Tips on how to tweak Nexuiz for the best performance

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Postby LordHavoc » Sun May 14, 2006 12:09 am

kern wrote:i run a 5200 on Linux - ok most options in Nexuiz are turned low or off, but its playable, getting worse when theres more players on, or its certain maps. like the current 14.


cpu is athlon 2400. think that would then be the limiting factor if i upgraded the card.


Based on this and other input about GFFX5200 performance in Nexuiz I have increased its rating to 'slow', driver optimizations since I last used a 5200 have improved performance rather significantly, along with some engine optimizations, so it is now a playable card (it was not originally). I still can not advocate buying one as it is too slow to use dynamic lights.

You are correct that the 2400 would be a limiting factor with a faster card, but not a significant one, especially at high resolutions, for instance my current GF6800 ULTRA AGP was originally used with an Athlon XP 2100+, which ran Nexuiz quite admirably, performance at low resolutions was subpar but very playable, it was about 5x faster than the GFFX5200 at 640x480 with all options off, and about 20x faster at 640x480 with all options on (GF6 architecture is immensely better at lighting and shadowing), when I upgraded to Athlon 64 3200+ it got faster at 640x480, but at high resolutions (1280x960, 1600x1200) it remained roughly the same as before.

I can't advocate buying AGP cards these days though, so your upgrade options may be limited, assuming you can afford an upgrade.

Good to hear it's playable :)
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Postby kern » Sun May 14, 2006 12:40 pm

thanks LH for the limiting factor feedback.
id considered upgrading GFX but yes the reason im not upgrading,
this mobo is stuck with VGA. will wait for an upgrade on the entire front.
seems silly to upgrade the card now, to find it being the restricting factor again later.

not that im about to spend huge Fatal1ty amounts for the privilege of having a much more graphical killing zone :)
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Postby divVerent » Sun May 14, 2006 1:42 pm

Charliebrownau wrote:Quadro and a lot of the Matrox cards are allerated CAD opengl cards
NOT for any gaming .


Yet still, the Quadro FX 1400 is enough for playing Nexuiz. It is nowhere near the best, but it allows realtime dynamic lights (IMPORTANT), deluxemapping and offset mapping at 1280x1024 on a reasonable framerate.

Quadro FX 450 is more in the "barely enough" range: realtime dynamic lights yes, everything else no.

You wouldn't buy these cards for playing games, they aren't made for that and are too expensive compared to their - higher clocked - consumer counterparts. But if you have a system with a Quadro FX 1400, you can play Nexuiz quite well on it.
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Postby Opferlamm » Sun May 14, 2006 8:08 pm

It would be very nice, if people who uses a FX 5200 under XP will post, which driver they use. Please urmel, tell it to me :)

And maybe anyone got any tweaking hints for me. That would be great.

AA/AF off and vsync off have i allready done.
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Postby tChr » Sun May 14, 2006 8:51 pm

Urmel uses a 6600 so Im not sure he can help yoo :) (iirc)
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Re: Recommended video cards

Postby upQuark » Thu May 18, 2006 10:27 am

LordHavoc wrote:NVIDIA GeForce 6200 - slow


Owners of older 6200 cards (if there are any on this forum :lol:):
My Nvidia 6200 was VERY slow with Nexuiz without overclocking. With RTlights on, most maps were either unplayable or had really crappy framerates. After overclocking my card by A LOT, Nexuiz ran pretty well. I didn't killer framerates but I got decent ones (30-40 fps on most maps), and there were only 2 or 3 maps that needed to have RTLights turned off to play. My overclocked 6200 even got a higher score on the Nexuiz benchmark (using my own demo) than my friend's stock 6600. Now I hear that the new 6200's are a lot harder to overclock, so I wouldn't recommend buying a 6200 for Nexuiz anymore. But, if you have one of the older ones (especially the ones that can have extra pipelines unlocked), overclocking is a very good option to make the performance better for Nexuiz. My 6200 also had an 128-bit memory interface and 128 megabytes of memory, making it significantly faster than 6200's with a 64-bit memory interface and 64 megabytes of memory.

I now have a 6800, but I was happy with my (overclocked) 6200 and how it worked with Nexuiz.

Another thing that should be on the "slow" list, though, is the 6600LE, which is significantly slower than the 6600 and a lot slower than the 6600GT. It's essentially a 6200 that's been overclocked a little. (Yes, my overclocked 6200 is signficantly faster than the 6600LE).
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Postby Urmel » Thu May 18, 2006 11:47 am

tChr wrote:Urmel uses a 6600 so Im not sure he can help yoo :) (iirc)


Erm, I still do use a FX5200 when I play on my Gurlfriend's machine (AMD 1900+, WIN XP, sucking 256MB RAM!!!). I run it in windowed mode with 900 x 675 resolution 8) and hardly any effects. But it's running at quite decent framerates.

A few weeks ago I had the FX5200 also running in my company rig (P4 2,6GHz/ 512mb RAM) with 1152x864 resolution.

There always was an issue with the network connection, never with the VGA. And I ruled plenty minstagib matches. I just replaced it cause I caught up a free Radeon 9800 Pro, for that I have to say I don't fight better since then :wink:


@ Opferlamm: I'm always using the recently at the nvidia.com site offered drivers.
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Postby Gut_Eater » Thu Jun 01, 2006 8:23 am

Hi guys!

In the next days I want to buy a new VGA.
I could get a 6600GT with 128 MB and DDR3 for 130,- EUR or a 6800XT with 128 MB for 150,- EUR. The 6800 XT does not have DDR3, but my hardware-dealer says, that it is definitly the more powerful card.
Is he right? I would think, that the 6600GT is faster because of the DDR3.

Any advices?

Thx
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Postby KadaverJack » Thu Jun 01, 2006 8:46 am

I dunno how both cards perfom in benchmarks/games, but after having a look at the stats i would say: save the 20 bucks and get the 6600GT :)
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Postby Gut_Eater » Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:01 am

@KadaverJack:
I forgot to mention, that it should be an AGP-card. But looking at the stats, it makes no big difference.

It would be helpful, if someone could say something about performance of these cards in games.
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