IllFonic's Nexuiz

[Mirio]

We never said you guys have to change the name. We refer to it as GPL Nexuiz 100% for context in conversation. We are changing this on the main web-site now but it takes a while to do changes to our web-site because it is done through a web-firm. The icon for the web-site redirect is being moved to the top right corner of the page and will resize with the web-site, being changed to "Original Nexuiz for PC". I don't know when this will be updated but i imagine sometime next week.

Thanks. "Original Nexuiz for PC" at the right cornor is good!

[Kedhrin]

I won't be replying as much for the next few days as we are gearing up for GDC and I need to be focused on production work. We also just had this happen last night in cased you missed it ( http://shogungamer.com/news/illfonic-de ... lice-error ). Right now I'm swamped, so it may take me a while to respond to you.

Thanks

[tChr]

The icon for the web-site redirect is being moved to the top right corner of the page and will resize with the web-site, being changed to "Original Nexuiz for PC". I don't know when this will be updated but i imagine sometime next week.

This is cool.. thanks.

[SC0RP]

I'm pretty much doubt Urcscumug is form Illfonic, don't be paranoid.

I wasnt suggesting he was from IllFonic. Im thinking this guy has been instructed to tell us this information at the request of IllFonic.

I'm not that big of a pussy to have someone fight my fights for me. I may request people to help me talk to people - but I will do it with them and not send in a spy.

Thats good to hear. We dont stand for no underhand shit here. I have nothing against you or your company in-fact I bigged you up in my previous posts.

After reading the post responses I will apologize for hinting that Urcscumug may of posted what he wrote at possibly your request. What was said needed to be said, either way.

Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge Urcscumug

[SC0RP]

I won't be replying as much for the next few days as we are gearing up for GDC and I need to be focused on production work. We also just had this happen last night in cased you missed it ( http://shogungamer.com/news/illfonic-de ... lice-error ). Right now I'm swamped, so it may take me a while to respond to you.

Thanks

HEADLINES!

..."game production company IllFonic were working on the top secret, soon to be smash Nexuiz! which is so hot, game company rivals sent in a team of armed police to try to gain insight into the project"...

or hopefully not...

..."the war between the new console and GPL PC versions of Nexuiz rages on. The bitter GPL Nexuiz developers sent in armed police to try to stop the production of IllFonic's console version"...

Only in America ay

Unbelievable!

[Lee_Stricklin]

Ok seems like you really need help with public relations. Let me rephrase that for you:

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"As Urcscumug has already told you he is not connected to Illfonic in any way. We're sorry if we have given you the impression that we are trying to infiltrate the community, I can assure you that we would never even think of anything like that. Currently I am the only Illfonic operative posting on the forums and I'll  be sure to announce when others will join us. Regards /Kendhrin"

Posting like that is exactly one of the main things that got us so pissed off to begin with. Simply posting like actual humans (like he did when he said he wasn't a pussy that needed spies) on this forum would seriously help communications.

[Ilaith]

Posting like that is exactly one of the main things that got us so pissed off to begin with.

I don't agree at all, but I see no point in convincing you so I'll just have to RESPECT your opinion.

Simply posting like actual humans (like he did when he said he wasn't a pussy that needed spies) on this forum would seriously help communications.

Where I come from what he posted would've never qualified as a mature input to a discussion.

[shaggy]

Interesting. The screenshots of the game that I have seen look pretty cool, but surely someone would have gone "oh shit, guys look at this there is already a large community with the name nexuiz and it has quite a following" or was it even researched at all? Was the name nexuiz even put into google as a test?

Obviously trying to argue that either games change their name is a lost cause which is why I hope the 'Nexuiz: a battle of the galaxies' or what ever someone posted is implemented

[nifrek]

Oh my, I completely missed this, I was so confused when I went to nexuiz.com today, hehe.

But man, sorry to say this, but I can't believe how you guys have been so fucking rude to Kedhrin. I'm amazed he's still here after all this trash talk. I'm not saying I disagree with the frustration, but rather that this frustration is directed at the wrong person. If anything, he's the GOOD guy in all of this, he's been nothing but a gentleman. His company bought the stuff from Alientrap, so whoever takes decisions for Alientrap should be blamed for bad decisions that were taken.

As far as I can tell, he did nothing wrong and he doesn't even NEED to explain himself at all - yet he is here trying his best to explain the situation. Obviously he wants to things to be civilized, but he did hint at Lee Vermeulen a few times, I guess he was too subtle for people to understand. I see things have calmed down, but he should get more respect than that just for keeping up with the hate and insults that have been thrown at him.

With that said, personally I agree that not changing the name was/is a bad move. It makes no sense at all to me. I don't understand how this could be a good marketing move for them. The nexuiz community is not that big, I doubt they're going to get a lot of players from here, but I could be wrong. I know that I don't own a console and do not plan to get one and I can't even imagine playing a FPS with a gamepad. That, and the confusion it creates between the 2 versions. So, new game for new people - a new name would make sense. Too late now, but I'm curious to know the reason behind this choice, so far I have not seen an explanation that makes sense.

Or wait, maybe all this confusion WAS planned ahead, if the situation makes the news everywhere, then "Nexuiz" will not be know as the name of game, but known to be a war between a corporation and a OSS community that lasted for years, making the news everywhere in the world. Hey, bad publicity is still publicity!

Anyway, I'm very curious to see where this is all going. Other than the confusion with the name, I don't see how this could be a bad thing. Having decided on using "Nexuiz" as name, they're pretty much stuck into being mentioned from basing it off a free GPL game. It'll definitely make people curious about the original version and make them have a look.

I do however hope Div0 and other devs will get compensated for the work they did, that should be everyone's main concern IMO.

[Xandria]

Yeah Nifrek people have been very rude and horrible to Kedhrin, I honestly could never be this hostile and I'm the queen of hostility usually.

I've said it elsewhere I'll say it again.

This is a positive towards open source and businesses. If you don't want names used they should be licensed correctly.

If it's a game I'll play it. Agreed I'm not a mapper, I'm not a modder however should that exclude me from a forum that deals in a game I play?

A lot of people don't even care about the developments, they are just annoyed at not being able to play the new version of the game so the mission becomes to stop it happening. I'll happily trash a Wii console since I don't have one and I'm envious of anyone who gets to play Resident Evil Darkside Chronicles.

So while a lot of people may have decent reasons quite a few are just jumping on the bandwagon due to envy. I don't classify a name as a good enough reason sorry. This could easily just be referred to opennex, or as the nexuiz.com site says PC GPL Nexuiz, or even how about the PC version uses the correct spelling, it now that it has a reason to change.

Arguing over a name is just.... You know, what if every kid with the same name argued over it in school?

I would understand if your work was being stolen without credit, your work was being reused and being sold. But this isn't the case, absolutely no harm is being done in a name. If thats the case then half the world should be in riot mode.

Just be positive about it, contribute to ideas, make the Nexuiz name a success, it only benefits absolutely everyone long term. To be honest, the same faces everyday I see on the PC version, isn't it about time you did something to make this game lively again? This development gives you a vantage point to make the PC version bigger. There you go, you are the community go and make that happen. Post on forums dealing with the new version, point them to the PC version, they will be interested in a tryout anyway.

I swear people only thing negative, and then they insult people.