IllFonic's Nexuiz

[Baker5]

I will refer to Nexuiz as Nexuiz and console Nexuiz as console Nexuiz.

If the trademark "Nexuiz" belongs to a non-FOSS company, that is no longer your decision to make. You will be as [un]free to use the word "Nexuiz" as the trademark holder decides.

/I'm not trying to be a "jerk", I am pointing out the legal reality of the situation.

[Aleator]

I will refer to Nexuiz as Nexuiz and console Nexuiz as console Nexuiz.

Me too :)

[halogene]

I won't add a suffix to Nexuiz too, except for the Console Nexuiz maybe.

Anyway, I appreciate that IllFonic/Kedhrin does/did actually enter into discussion with the Nexuiz community. Moving/altering the link to Nexuiz on the console Nexuiz page is a nice gesture too and I appreciate it as such, however, it doesn't actually solve the problem.

In my opinion the deal was simply made without consent of all parties - because the Nexuiz community is part of the Alientrap project "Nexuiz". I know it may be legally different, but all legal systems only TRY to replicate what the majority of people actually feel. I bet if you ask people that are not involved in this either way, then you'd get an answer like "well, they could have taken a different name, couldn't they".

[Baker5]

Anyway, I appreciate that IllFonic/Kedhrin does/did actually enter into discussion with the Nexuiz community. Moving/altering the link to Nexuiz on the console Nexuiz page is a nice gesture too and I appreciate it as such

Translation: I know that the community is getting boned-over by this guy, but it is really nice his guilty conscience has led him to make a presence in the forum to try to smooth over the boning with some lube.

But rather than rehash what is already known, at least on a subconscious level by "Nexuiz climate change deniers", what credentials and track record of successful and completed projects does this gentleman have that such a sacrifice should be made on his behalf?

[parasti]

There's been enough flaming as it is. Nice try, though.

[SC0RP]

SC0RP's Summary...

http://soundcloud.com/sc0rp/and-so-the-battle-continues

[R.A.T.Washing.M]

I won't add a suffix to Nexuiz too, except for the Console Nexuiz maybe.

Anyway, I appreciate that IllFonic/Kedhrin does/did actually enter into discussion with the Nexuiz community. Moving/altering the link to Nexuiz on the console Nexuiz page is a nice gesture too and I appreciate it as such, however, it doesn't actually solve the problem.

In my opinion the deal was simply made without consent of all parties - because the Nexuiz community is part of the Alientrap project "Nexuiz". I know it may be legally different, but all legal systems only TRY to replicate what the majority of people actually feel. I bet if you ask people that are not involved in this either way, then you'd get an answer like "well, they could have taken a different name, couldn't they".

100% agree with you Halogene.
But you put your fingers where it actually hurts: there are 2 dissociate aspects: one "moral" (the one you mentioned), and one commercial.
If Illfonic doesn't plan to modify the game name, it is precisely to promote the underground reputation of the PC version.
Changing the name, even slightly, would traduce the console version to be a replica. Then a lack of authenticity.

I am pretty convinced that the console version will be substancially different from the PC game.
But, at the end, it doesn't matter: what Illfonic wants to buy is the original PC game credibility

[FruitieX]

[quote="SC0RP"]SC0RP's Summary...

http://soundcloud.com/sc0rp/and-so-the-battle-continues[/quote]
You win one whole Internets.

[Lamoot]

I am pretty convinced that the console version will be substancially different from the PC game.
But, at the end, it doesn't matter: what Illfonic wants to buy is the original PC game credibility

This seems to be the only logical explanation right now. So far we haven't received (if we have please do link and prove me wrong) any explanation as to why Illfonic decided to use exactly the same name. So my simple question is - why?

You're under NDA, eh? Why was it so important to put this under NDA and prevent the reason to be known? Why all the secrecy? Will we not like the reason?

[mand1nga]

I will reiterate. **Nexuiz 2.5** is a community driven project.

Sure, you might find your "but I've sold my 1.0 version!" story as an interesting and convenient one. I found it just insulting.

At least for me now it's pretty clear what do you think we are. Matches perfectly what you just did.