thoughts about bones in weapons.

[zuriastrad]

i imported the lazer zym to see how it was done and noticed it only had one bone in it, presumably to locate it on the "bip01 r hand" bone. i'm guessing this means the muzzle flash is located by having some co-ordinates in a config file somewhere. while this approach obviously works it doesn't strike me as the easiest way of doing things. for example, if someone made a new lazer model that had a shorter, higher barrel then they would not only have to alter the model, they would also have to figure out how far the muzzle flash would need to be moved, make a new config file to account for that difference and package it up in the pk3.

a far quicker and easier method would be to have a second bone in the weapon called muzzle, which the game would use to locate the muzzle flash. then if someone wanted to alter the weapon all they would have to do is move the muzzle bone to match their new weapon model.

how difficult would it be to change the code to implement this?

[zuriastrad]

i decided to give make something in blender to demonstrate what i mean. i imported the lazer's zym and gave it this new skeleton. the bone that locates the bone to the hand is now called "handle" and the bone that locates where the muzzle flash starts from is called "muzzle".



i've made a zym for my laser with it's new bones. i've put it in a pk3 along with the blend file i used to make it. hopefully this will come in useful if anyone wants to try and get the new bones working in nexuiz.

click here to download

[esteel]

Thats for sure useful, could you maybe check the other wepaon models and see if they also have muzzle bones? I think some of them have, maybe you can make sure that all guns get a bone with the same name?

[KillaGrunt]

This is weird zuristrad. When i dowloaded it and out it in the data folder i started playing and the lazer was on my head. Is this supposed to happen?

[[-z-]]

Well.. seeing as how your client doesn't have code to support the model... no, it's not weird.

LOL words, picshore, WANT, zomg pk3 > download to my dir -> start nexuiz -> omgwtf? lol hot dogs. cat goes meow wwhhheeee - wut happend guize?



I think this is a great idea zuriastrad. Well explained too .

[KillaGrunt]

Are you okay [-z-]? Are you on pot?

[zuriastrad]

esteel-
i'll take a look at the weapon models, it would make sense to have all of them with the new bones. i'm guessing i might need to do some scaling too, because the laser looked damn big.

[-z-]

killagrunt-
i think you missed the point a bit. i made that weapon with my handle and muzzle bones so that if someone wanted to implement my suggestion then they'd have a weapon to test it on. since the code hasn't been implemented yet it is going to act strangely.

[KillaGrunt]

OHHHHHHHHHH. Maybe thats why its on my head. LOL

[zuriastrad]

doesn't look like all of the weapons have muzzle bones.