srsly guys. guys, srsly.

[rufsketch1]

does darkplaces support a combination of both bumpmaps and normal maps yet? I'm playing around with editing textures, and i can't seem to get the ligthing quality that normal maps offer, combined with the compatibility with offset mapping that bumpmaps offer.


am i doing it wrong? was this post a giant fail? or does darkplaces still not allow us to use both?

[KadaverJack]

According to Docs/darkplaces.txt the bumpmap is the normal map's alpha channel...

progs/player.mdl_0_norm.tga - normalmap (can have alpha channel with bumpmap height for offsetmapping/reliefmapping)
progs/player.mdl_0_bump.tga - bumpmap (not loaded if normalmap is present)

[rufsketch1]

i see. but nevermind that. it seems that isn't the problem. i'm not getting the normal map shader to show because i think i need to compile the map with something called the -deluxe flag. however, it is not my map, and all i have is the mapcfg and the bsp file.

i assume it means compile it from gtkradiant. is there anyway to open it? or does anyone have the .map file for the level "ikzdm1" aka, the doom that came to dunwhich by fingers.

its part of the nexuiz 35 map pack. I really like the map, and i want to improve the textures to take advantage of nexuiz's offset mapping. however, they don't seem to change the way they are shaded in response to the lightmap. only in response to dynamic lights such as one's from rocket launchers.

I have made some very cool improvements to all of the textures, but i don't want to release them until i get this thing down.

[torus]

I LOVE Ikzdm1. Anyway, you can do a couple things:

- Generate normalmaps from the textures with Crazybump or equivalent utility.

- Decompile the map with q3map2 into the map source. This will lose the texture coordinates though, so you would have to re-texture it.

If you do decide to decompile, PLEASE remove those stupid jumppad/ladders, and scale the map up! Awesome map though.

[rufsketch1]

losing the texture coordinates seems like it would kill me O_O.

I'm generating the bumpmaps by hand, and then creating normal maps from those using gimp. most of the bumpmaps and normal maps have been created already. i just need them to respond to the lightmaps. which as i gather, requires that i recompile the level using the -deluxe flag.


i've emailed the maps original author, and hopefully he can give me the original .map file.

[rufsketch1]

yeah, decompiling the map loses all texture values. i don't even have any clue how to reassign them, it gives me a bunch of errors about not being able to read them. however the titles of all the textures being used show up in gtk radiant. its just that the preview for the texture is a blue checker box for everything.

and recompiling gives me some error about missing an srt file.

also, and this isn't relevant to the original intent of the thread. does anyone else find it weird that my robot character explodes into large meaty chunks?

[torus]

Yea, emailing the author was a good idea. I've had success with that once or twice. Good luck- I really want to have a nice playable IKZDM1 in Nexuiz

[divVerent]

I LOVE Ikzdm1. Anyway, you can do a couple things:

- Generate normalmaps from the textures with Crazybump or equivalent utility.

- Decompile the map with q3map2 into the map source. This will lose the texture coordinates though, so you would have to re-texture it.

If you do decide to decompile, PLEASE remove those stupid jumppad/ladders, and scale the map up! Awesome map though.

This info is OUTDATED. Use NetRadiant's q3map2 for decompiling - that one retains texture coordinates. To edit the map after decompiling, you need to switch Radiant to "Alternate Texture Projection" in the preferences then.

[rufsketch1]

where might i download this?

[rufsketch1]

ok so i downloaded the linux version of netradiant, as the windows link seems to be down.

using q3map2 results in a series of strange errors all looking something like this.

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no matching triangle for brushside using textures/ikzdm1/ik_brick_trimh64a (hopefully nobody can see this side anyway)


with different texture names.

it ends with the following

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WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/common/trigger
       49 seconds elapsed


then attempting to open the resulting netfile in netradiant results in the following output by netradiant.

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Loading map from /home/rufsketch1/nexuiz/maps/ikzdm1_converted.map
Open file /home/rufsketch1/nexuiz/maps/ikzdm1_converted.map for read...success
9:10: parse error at 'brushDef': expected '#quake3-primitive'
brush 0: parse error
entity 0: parse error
map load timer:  0.00 second(s) elapsed
--- LoadMapFile ---
/home/rufsketch1/nexuiz/maps/ikzdm1_converted.map
0     primitive
0     entities


perhaps i am not putting in the correct arguments for q3map2?