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Postby TVR » Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:08 pm

C.Brutail wrote:leileilol, the sg sound has been recorded by Tenshihan himself.


From an actual shotgun, I suppose that is how all shotgun samples originate.

Unproven accusations, fortunately that is not how modern judiciary systems function.
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Postby torus » Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:43 pm

TVR wrote:
C.Brutail wrote:leileilol, the sg sound has been recorded by Tenshihan himself.


From an actual shotgun, I suppose that is how all shotgun samples originate.

Unproven accusations, fortunately that is not how modern judiciary systems function.


Leileilol was simply questioning the sounds' legal nature- seems a perfectly legitimate concern. If they aren't from samples, then great. If they are, then there are problems- but we shouldn't hesitate to check. Better safe then sorry.
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Postby TVR » Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:19 am

torus wrote:
TVR wrote:
C.Brutail wrote:leileilol, the sg sound has been recorded by Tenshihan himself.


From an actual shotgun, I suppose that is how all shotgun samples originate.

Unproven accusations, fortunately that is not how modern judiciary systems function.


Leileilol was simply questioning the sounds' legal nature- seems a perfectly legitimate concern. If they aren't from samples, then great. If they are, then there are problems- but we shouldn't hesitate to check. Better safe then sorry.


The burden of proof is established onto the accuser, an injunction ['I hope these do not get committed'] based without the benefit of doubt isn't a fair judiciary procedure.
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Postby torus » Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:28 am

TVR wrote:
torus wrote:
TVR wrote:
C.Brutail wrote:leileilol, the sg sound has been recorded by Tenshihan himself.


From an actual shotgun, I suppose that is how all shotgun samples originate.

Unproven accusations, fortunately that is not how modern judiciary systems function.


Leileilol was simply questioning the sounds' legal nature- seems a perfectly legitimate concern. If they aren't from samples, then great. If they are, then there are problems- but we shouldn't hesitate to check. Better safe then sorry.


The burden of proof is established onto the accuser, an injunction ['I hope these do not get committed'] based without the benefit of doubt isn't a fair judiciary procedure.


This is not a federal court, if you hadn't noticed. It's up to the community to investigate and come to a consensus about a claim like that.

By the way, does it make you feel big obfuscate your language to the point where the meaning is practically lost? You sound like a teenager who's just learned the meaning of polysyllabic anfractuosity.
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Postby Tenshihan » Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:15 am

leileilol wrote:I got a suspicion that these sounds derive from stock audio samples from Sound Generals. Those 'commonly used' sounds are NOT 'public domain'. They are licensed by purchasing the sound library for royalty-free license without changing its license.

Like familiar flesh splat sound in the hit sound, electro sound (the sparks really remind me of half-life), ... the shotgun even sounds familiar.

I hope these do not get committed.

Wow, I spend a day away sleeping off the flu and then sign-in only to find all of this nonsense? I find your public accusations HIGHLY offensive.

None of the sounds that I make are 'stock sounds' from any other source other than myself:

The flesh-splat sound you hear was made with my mouth.

The Electrical-spark sound you hear was made in my garage with an electrical arc-welder.

The shotgun is a remington that I borrowed from a friend while at the Gun-range and took SEVERAL recordings to get right because the first set were terribly distorted due to how loud the gun is, ...I finally had to turn the input-gain down to 5% to get the initial blast-sound without distortion, and then combine THAT wave with the decaying sound of the other previous recordings I've done. When combined, it is what you hear in THIS game.

And in case you ever check my credits, in the past ten years I have done sound-mods for several games, INCLUDING the half-life series - before starting here as well.

http://www.garrysmod.org/user/?u=28599&rnum=864837

Most people use MY sounds when they use a sound-mod nowadays.

If ANY of my other soundwork is in question, ...here is what you need to know NOW, ...I record EVERYTHING MYSELF digitally using some of the most expensive technology available, as is my software. The amount of hours I put into working on waveforms have proven my abilities as a Sound-Designer for the past 20+ years. I'm not some kid who grabs sounds from others and claims them as his own. Also, I work hard at pleasing our community here by CHANGING anything and everything they ask for, ...I don't sit on my ass and leave everyone with only ONE option. (If you want NEW Gib sounds, or electrical arc sounds, ...you could have just ASKED)

If someone thinks my sounds are too familiar sounding - that's because OTHERS have used them before (I have a MASSIVE sound-library that I've created in the past ten years), but these sounds are in-fact all MINE and I hold the copyright on them and use them as I see fit. In the case of Nexuiz, 99.9% of the recordings Ive done are new and never used in any game before, they are made specifically for Nexuiz.

~Michael 'Tenshihan' Quinn
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Postby torus » Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:41 am

I think that settles it :P
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Postby Tenshihan » Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:56 am

torus wrote:I think that settles it :P
Thanks Torus, ...always good to hear from You, man! :)

BTW, i'm not sure if Div has contacted you about re-doing some vocal lines, but we wanted to use your excellent-speaking voice for the player-model 'Grunt'.

Also, If you can do any other types of voices as well, ...maybe you could record some samples for me? (I also really want to do some recordings for the player-model 'Quark'), and I think that your voice would be excellent if you used a similar but more flat monotone to what you previously did. I also really liked the voice-modulation you used (robotic-effects?) afterwards in post. Please let me know if that's cool with you.

Cheers,

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Postby TVR » Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:17 am

torus wrote:... This is not a federal court ...


Burden of proof and benefit of doubt are general concepts that may and should be applied to any form of judgement. Unproven accusations come as libel, as you've seen with Tenshihan.

If takedown were issued, it would be resolved in the physical location of the web-host.
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Postby Alien » Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:21 am

I still wonder about trak's textures.
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Postby divVerent » Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:29 am

Thank you, that resolved everything.

leileilol is always looking for non-free content in GPLed games. Don't be insulted by that. And leileilol did manage to find some textures in Nexuiz that were ripped from Q3A - which I then simply remade from scratch to resolve it.

leileilol does have a point in doing that - GPLed content may be used by other projects too (according to the GPL, these must be under the GPL then too, but that's about it - for data, the GPL is very similar to CC-BY-SA, but a dfiferent license, thus not compatible to that CC license). Now if some content in Nexuiz may have stemmed from illegal sources, it may even happen that nobody of us gets sued - but someone else who used our content.

And you wouldn't guess how many free projects use sounds or textures from illegal sources. The main "motor" for happening this are "public domain content sites". Some people take data out of a commercially released game, and upload it on these sites, which automatically add it to the collection. The next one comes, downloads such content, and thinks "great, it's public domain" - but what he does not know is that it in fact isn't, and he'll may end up in court for it. That's the usual path of non-free content slipping in... and seriously, leileilol is the only one in the open source scene who tries to find such content, and notify the project owners about it.

Thanks for resolving this.
1. Open Notepad
2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
3. Save
4. Open the file in Notepad again

You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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