Tenshihan's Newest Sound-Releases:

[Alien]

The best way if the textures wouldn't be scattered all around (how one could know whether the particular texture in particular map is gpl or not) and another question is whether would you accept those

[divVerent]

scattered all around? What do you mean?

The evil* texture directories are all made by evillair.

Many mappers however put the textures in a directory of their map name, and some mappers (e.g. the mapper of starship) took textures from Q3A and edited them.

[Alien]

GPL ones. Taking a non-official map you can't be sure, that the particular texture used is GPL one.

[divVerent]

I have no idea what the dispute about TraK's textures was, that is, which media he supposedly had used with or without permission.

However, even in the worst case, a written statement that's sent to, e.g., Vermeulen, would settle all.

That statement could be written like:

Hereby I declare that I am a rightful copyright holder of <work name here>.

either:
The work is a derived work from <work name here>, licensed to me under the terms of the <license name here>... (maybe a longer list)
(if the licensing isn't publicly known, attach a verifiable proof of license, in TraK's case, a printed copy of the e-mail he got)

or:
The work is a sole work by myself/the author team, and is not derived from any work made by others.

Therefore, all conditions to license <work name here> to you under the terms of the General Public License, version 2 are fulfilled, and I hereby license <work name here> to Alientrap (and consequently to the general public) under this license.

<signature here>

As I believe Tenshihan, I don't think we should ask him to write up such a statement and sign it and send it to us, as he has clearly proven that he does have his own sound studio and records on his own. However, in case of doubt, such a document would make the one who provided the media to us liable in case the material is a copyright violation, so we could sue him for damages in case someone sued us for damages.

I have no idea what this was about with the TraK textures. But if TraK writes up such a statement and sends it to leileilol, the textures sure CAN be included again, and I would include them in Nexuiz then too if Vermeulen (address is in whois alientrap.org) confirms he has received it.

The question is, however, whether leileilol has a post address to send this to, as such thing as part of an e-mail or a forum post wouldn't be legally binding.

[leileilol]

TraK's textures were derived from cgtextures.com with 'personal permission'. 2 months past the OA 080 release that had them, cgtextures made a final clarification that their materials may not be used in GPL or commercial products. Since that, OA 0.8.0's been pulled, textures were purged, and CGTextures is declared as a big evil. Safe rules over sorry. Don't trust contributors with big words and excuses, such as !!:

If someone thinks my sounds are too familiar sounding - that's because OTHERS have used them before (I have a MASSIVE sound-library that I've created in the past ten years), but these sounds are in-fact all MINE and I hold the copyright on them and use them as I see fit. In the case of Nexuiz, 99.9% of the recordings Ive done are new and never used in any game before, they are made specifically for Nexuiz.

lol:

The flesh-splat sound you hear was made with my mouth.

lol does that mean this sound from Quake III Team Arena is made with your mouth too? How about these stabbings from Counter-Strike? This is clearly Sound Generals. NO WAIT! You "did that with your mouth". How am I supposed to believe you just didn't copy and paste from some copyrighted Sound Generals derived source? Why are these identical sounding sound effects appear in other games when you state you made " are new and never used in any game before, they are made specifically for Nexuiz."? Hrm.
I may be complaining about just ONE of the sounds, but the act of blatantly lying that you created it from your mouth completely shatters any further reputable 'truth' of this sudden ego you had to somehow bring up in the post.
You are highly offended because I know this is the typical strong reaction of guilt. I've seen it way too many times from big egos who are too afraid to have admitted from taking from copyrighted sources then contributing those to a GPL project of all things that react and lie like this. Mmmmmmm suspicion.

Hope these get reverted for the sake of the project's future.

[C.Brutail]

Can't you be just one time positive about this project and the ppl doing it anymore?
You're acting like a crybaby.

[leileilol]

Can't you be just one time positive about this project and the ppl doing it anymore?
You're acting like a crybaby.

Holy crap, let's lynch those who raise red flags on potential legal risks. Smart idea. Let's live in a world where everyone commits copyright infringement unintentionally by sharing Nexuiz.

Is this your idea of Free Software? It certainly isn't mine.

[Alien]

Why the fuck you can't believe what it is told to you? It's Tenshinhan's RESPONSIBILITY to provide GPL'ed materials and he has already told you that they ARE GPL'ed.

Yeah, just remove everything, cause somebody might have patented particular bpm pattern or waveform. Meh, all shotgun sounds have SIMILAR wave pattern cause the mechanism is SIMILAR, isn't it? You want that each sound should differ from any other game, but rl explosions irl do not differ at all. Now when Nexuiz finally have GOOD sounds, we should remove them because there is NO DIRECT proof and only suspicions. In the end, there is no way to prove anything cause too many modifications make the source not recognizable anyway.

And if CGtextures didn't give permission, why don't they bring Trak to lawsuit then?

[Mr. Bougo]

I believe Leileilol compared these sounds to this:
http://svn.icculus.org/*checkout*/nexui ... ision=4922

I indeed think this sounds similar to http://leileilol.mancubus.net/crap/crap ... e_hit3.wav

[Alien]

Similarity is not proof that something was stolen. Non guilty until proved, and not vice versa.
Let's say I analyze the bpm pattern of quake 3 intro song and then recreate the song with same bpm pattern, but with different drumset, tones, etc... Am I guilty and my sound can't be GPL'ed? No. The license of reference does not imply the license of implementation because world is not the USA.