Tenshihan's Newest Sound-Releases:

[halogene]

Leileilol, it's ok to raise legal questions and express doubt but please stay civil. I share your opinion that we should be careful about GPL hygiene, and also that a "written" confirmation posted on the forum is not really legally significant.

But please consider that all you have come up with to back up your doubts is "it sounds familiar". Of course the sounds Tenshihan produces should sound familiar to existing sounds, if those sounds are good.

I think it is not acceptable to base insults like calling somebody a liar on that kind of mere assumption. Especially if this somebody has proven to be more than capable of producing high quality sounds and altering the sounds according to the community's requests/suggestions. That alone demonstrates his skill in working with sounds, so why shouldn't he be able to create sounds from scratch?

Considering how much Tenshihan has done for Nexuiz so far (but also in general), I would strongly recommend you to back up claims like this better. You could for example compare the audio files digitally. If you can't do that, express your doubt in a civil way but don't insult people just because you think they did something wrong.

Edit: I spent too much time writing this, now three replies came in between :o)

[Tenshihan]

The flesh-splat sound you hear was made with my mouth.

lol does that mean this sound from Quake III Team Arena is made with your mouth too? How about these stabbings from Counter-Strike? This is clearly Sound Generals. NO WAIT! You "did that with your mouth". How am I supposed to believe you just didn't copy and paste from some copyrighted Sound Generals derived source? Why are these identical sounding sound effects appear in other games when you state you made " are new and never used in any game before, they are made specifically for Nexuiz."? Hrm.
I may be complaining about just ONE of the sounds, but the act of blatantly lying that you created it from your mouth completely shatters any further reputable 'truth' of this sudden ego you had to somehow bring up in the post.
You are highly offended because I know this is the typical strong reaction of guilt. I've seen it way too many times from big egos who are too afraid to have admitted from taking from copyrighted sources then contributing those to a GPL project of all things that react and lie like this. Mmmmmmm suspicion.

Hope these get reverted for the sake of the project's future.

Clearly you cannot - by your hearing (or lack of intelligence) alone - distinguish between sounds that are similar, but are NOT by waveform analyis definition - the same AT ALL.

Your laughable comparison of links to those sounds - and comparing them to MY 'hit' sound are the perfect example of why you are not capable of judging anything to do with sound. My waveforms look NOTHING like those ones. Not at all.

Most 'gib' sounds you hear are made in only a few ways; 1) A wet Chammy-cloth flung against a surface. 2) Fruits such as Melons being splashed open or having their innards handled roughly by hand, or 3) by Mouth, usually filled with water, which is how I did MINE.

You should ask yourself; When comparing the few sounds you've brought up in comparison to ALL my other work - "why WOULD he use a few borrowed sounds when everything else he does is completely original?"

How does THAT make ANY sense? You think I want to pettily lower my own standards through mere plagerism so that morons like you can so easily 'troll' my hard work?

How does THAT make ANY sense? What would be the motive? ....failure? So I look like a lazy idiot?

Do you even have the capability of COMPARING waveforms? Because I DO, and My waveforms are UNIQUE and look NOTHING like the ones you are claiming sound like mine.

The fact that you cannot tell the difference only means only ONE THING: That YOU cannot distinguish between similar sounds with your incompetent ears. Your unwarranted accusation has absolutely NO merit, nor ANY validity, especially when comparing such OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT SOUNDS.

One only needs to use a waveform editor, open up the sounds you've compared to mine, and SEE that they are all and each uniquely shaped, with their own crests and peaks at completely different intervals. In short - only a complete IDIOT would attempt to slander my work without even INVESTIGATING firstly BEFORE making such a stupid accusation. You have 'compared' these sounds by EAR - and in your failed 'esteemed' OPINION, have passed judgement on them as if YOUR opinion alone were 'reality'.

How could you even compare MY 'hit' sound with these? Or are you CONFUSING the original 'gib' sound that was already included with the Nexuiz sound-pack - as MY work - before I even arrived on this project? Obviously that is NOT 'my' gib sound, nor have I claimed it was mine. Your accusation was about my 'hit' sound, which if you are talking about the background gib sound I added to it - that IS MADE WITH MY MOUTH.

The rest of your insultive post, calling ME a liar, as if YOUR opinion was the final say in reality - is a JOKE to me. You wrongfully conclude that because I am offended by your insults and accusations, that I must somehow be GUILTY because of my strong reaction? Do you expect people that you insult - to lie down quietly while you attempt to *beeep*?

Are you completely insane? Has anyone ever accused you of *beep*? How would YOU feel if some moron came along and accused you of doing that - and then claimed it "was true" ...just because HE "heard you doing it".

Brilliant deduction there, son.

It seems to me that it's YOUR ego that is "so full of itself" that you feel you have the right to accuse others of 'stealing' without ANY scientific proof what-so-ever. ...Oh, unless it's by your professional audio-analyzing "ears". LMFAO - what a JOKE!

Awesome logic and scientific investigation technique you have there. If ANYONE believes a word you say WITHOUT investigating the sound waveforms themself, then I have no choice but to discern them as stupid as yourself.

Below is for ALL to see, your two 'examples' below, and then my 'hit' sound at the bottom. As everyone can see, they look NOTHING alike.



*beeep sounds were made by C.Brutail. With his own *beeeping* keyboard. [/b]

[halogene]

Hmm could we all stay civil here? This is very unproductive. Strong words do not make an argument stronger - if anything, they make it vulnerable. I know you feel insulted, Tenshihan, and you indeed are but my point remains valid.


Peace :o)

[Mr. Bougo]

I don't think that post needed insults.

[Tenshihan]

Hmm could we all stay civil here? This is very unproductive. Strong words do not make an argument stronger - if anything, they make it vulnerable. I know you feel insulted, Tenshihan, and you indeed are, but my point remains valid.

Peace )

I agree my friend, i'm usually a very peaceful guy, however, when someone throws a punch at me for no reason, I WILL tear their arm off.

If only trolls were not allowed to post such absurd stupidity, I wouldn't have any reason to defend myself.

Peace to you too.

[C.Brutail]

Watch for it guys... There could be children here

[Tenshihan]

Watch for it guys... There could be children here

You're right, i'm sorry C.Brutail, ...I WILL edit my post, regardless of my emotions, due to that fact.

EDIT: Oh, haha, ...ok, you already fixed it.

[Mr. Bougo]

Err IMHO that's no troll. Leileilol is doing what he thinks is good. It's for the benefit of Nexuiz, not for anything else, as divVerent stated.

As for his harsh way of arguing, I do agree it makes it look like trolling. I told him on IRC, but he said he does that all the time :p




Tenshihan, as your work is GPL, you could provide the original recordings, that would be a way more efficient counter-argument than insult.

[Alien]

Yeah, XSAX does it all the time too.

[Mr. Bougo]

Yeah, XSAX does it all the time too.

XSAX is actually off-topic here. All I got to say about him is that he's not always a bad guy.

Try having a normal talk with him. He won't go aggressive.