This sounds even more ridiculous (it doesn't mean you are not right). According to you, responsible would be the person who has used copyright infringing materials even they were claimed as GPL. Any source who would confirm the statement you stated above?
This was response to div, not leileilol.
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by Alien » Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:35 pm
leileilol wrote:divVerent wrote:disregarding the proof by Tenshihan
that 'proof' doesn't even relate to the suspicious sounds in question. Also, using visual comparison of altered waveforms has absolutely no basis - it takes an ear to hear it out. For christ's sake, it's a SOUND.
Yeah, you probably can recognize shotgun models from the sound. Nice.
As I said nothing can be proved, ffs. Why nobody can understand that? How are you gonna prove? Will you make a search at tenshinhans house?
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by divVerent » Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:42 pm
leileilol wrote:divVerent wrote:disregarding the proof by Tenshihan
that 'proof' doesn't even relate to the suspicious sounds in question. Also, using visual comparison of altered waveforms has absolutely no basis - it takes an ear to hear it out. For christ's sake, it's a SOUND.
If you insist, what about asking Tenshihan for that signed declaration? A wrong statement in such matters could get very expensive for him, so he wouldn't sign it if it is not true.
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by divVerent » Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:48 pm
Alien wrote:This sounds even more ridiculous (it doesn't mean you are not right). According to you, responsible would be the person who has used copyright infringing materials even they were claimed as GPL. Any source who would confirm the statement you stated above?
Exactly that person IS responsible, as he is (unknowingly, but that does not matter) committing a copyright violation. However, if he has proof that he got the materials under the GPL, the "good faith" construct can be used to defend in the court.
http://www.lectlaw.com/def/d027.htm
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by divVerent » Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:51 pm
And why did you delete *your* "proof"? I can't even verify it, the files are 404.
And Tenshihan: to clear all this up, do you still have the source files of the hit sound leileilol was referring to (no idea which one of the different hit sounds it was)?
And Tenshihan: to clear all this up, do you still have the source files of the hit sound leileilol was referring to (no idea which one of the different hit sounds it was)?
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by Alien » Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:03 pm
divVerent wrote:Exactly that person IS responsible, as he is (unknowingly, but that does not matter) committing a copyright violation.
That's why I asked for source for this particular statement. If some 3rd party enterprise sells you silver disks you can't be punished unless you know that they were illegal from the start.
The most simple example: you have a bike, bike was stolen, a person at the bazaar buys a bike without knowing it was stolen, you notice your bike and the city and call the police, you PROVE that it is your bike (eg. by id on the frame) , bike is confiscated from that person, but he isn't punished and investigation for the real thief begins.
The example, which would work for you: you buy drugs or prostitute (ok, it's legal in your country), but you're punished because you know that these actions are wrong.
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by divVerent » Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:06 pm
Alien wrote:divVerent wrote:Exactly that person IS responsible, as he is (unknowingly, but that does not matter) committing a copyright violation.
That's why I asked for source for this particular statement. If some 3rd party enterprise sells you silver disks you can't be punished unless you know that they were illegal from the start.
Unless you SELL or DISTRIBUTE them. Of course the USERS can't be sued.
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by leileilol » Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:08 pm
divVerent wrote:And why did you delete *your* "proof"? I can't even verify it, the files are 404.
in an unrelated turn of events, the site hosting OA ran into a billing issue. Also there's going to be a domain renewal issue coming up. The outcome is going to affect the fate of my labors of love. Yay thanks.
i will reupload the evidence elsewhere shortly as a zip file.
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by Alien » Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:11 pm
divVerent wrote:Alien wrote:divVerent wrote:Exactly that person IS responsible, as he is (unknowingly, but that does not matter) committing a copyright violation.
That's why I asked for source for this particular statement. If some 3rd party enterprise sells you silver disks you can't be punished unless you know that they were illegal from the start.
Unless you SELL or DISTRIBUTE them. Of course the USERS can't be sued.
What's the difference. Now some 3rd party enterprise gives them as GPL.
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by leileilol » Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:12 pm
http://www.sendspace.com/file/2uftt0
bing! now they're not a 404 anymore!
elite_fire.wav is about hagexp* btw.
bing! now they're not a 404 anymore!
elite_fire.wav is about hagexp* btw.
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