Tenshihan's Newest Sound-Releases:

[Tenshihan]

Roland rocks (TB-303 forever).

....wow man, ...that goes back a long time, ...to when "I" was new to all of this!

[Alien]

Disputing the origin of the said sounds is the issue here.

This is not a dramatic, personality rap battle pissing contest - I could care less of how many who thinks of me as Hitler. That is not the point.

This is why I have not lowered myself to reply to every insult I have recieved. Try again and try sharing the real source of the suspect audio files rather than an unrelated bunch of 'gib' samples to prove otherwise. I don't think armor1.wav was created by mouth or melon.

I've yet to be proven wrong. Insults are moot.

It seems you need to prove, not he. Sorry.

[Tenshihan]

Disputing the origin of the said sounds is the issue here.

This is not a dramatic, personality rap battle pissing contest - I could care less of how many who thinks of me as Hitler. That is not the point.

This is why I have not lowered myself to reply to every insult I have recieved. Try again and try sharing the real source of the suspect audio files rather than an unrelated bunch of 'gib' samples to prove otherwise. I don't think armor1.wav was created by mouth or melon.

Armor1.wav was created using my weight-set. Dragging a 5-pound metal weight onto another one and letting them gently collide with each other. I never claimed that 'armor1.wav' was created by my mouth, or by melon.

As for your conclusion that I "haven't shared the original audio sources"? ...if you can't understand by listening and hearing what i've said, ...I no longer care. I'm not wasting anymore time on this subject.

[leileilol]

As for your conclusion that I "haven't shared the original audio sources"? ...if you can't understand by listening and hearing what i've said, ...I no longer care. I'm not wasting anymore time on this subject.

Cool Edit Pro was used, with multi-track editing. There are project files in existence. These are not shared, either. I guess this refusal to share the sources ultimately makes the sounds non-Free and GPL incompatible then, since after all I am being denied the source?

What do you think if another project derives from your sounds? Is it still yours? Do you still claim ownership of it and have all the right to take it away? This is a separate issue from the potential plagiarism, by the way.

What I want is some answers and citations, not slander. I didn't have any intent to slander (though my earlier posts do look that way, my temper can regrettably explode when a GPL data project I like is in danger of possible infringement). This thread is not about me. This thread is about the sounds. This is a valid discussion, and my attitude has nothing to do with it.

[Alien]

As for your conclusion that I "haven't shared the original audio sources"? ...if you can't understand by listening and hearing what i've said, ...I no longer care. I'm not wasting anymore time on this subject.

Cool Edit Pro was used, with multi-track editing. There are project files in existence. These are not shared, either. I guess this refusal to share the sources ultimately makes the sounds non-Free and GPL incompatible then, since after all I am being denied the source?

What do you think if another project derives from your sounds? Is it still yours? Do you still claim ownership of it and have all the right to take it away? This is a separate issue from the potential plagiarism, by the way.

What I want is some answers and citations, not slander. I didn't have any intent to slander (though my earlier posts do look that way, my temper can regrettably explode when a GPL data project I like is in danger of possible infringement)

The source is wav file (which is lossless pcm modulation - raw file) . What if I use an application which exports to wav only? I have no use of his project file because my app can't read his project file. So how can it be the source?
Those project files won't work neither in reason, nor in ableton, cubase, ardour, whatever.
This is the same ridiculous requirement of psd files as source. Psd file is proprietary photshop file format and isn't the source either cause you can't require other apps to understand it.

[leileilol]

The source is wav file (which is lossless pcm modulation - raw file) . What if I use an application which exports to wav only? I have no use of his project file because my app can't read his project file. So how can it be the source?

There are different variations of the offending hit.wav sound with the familiar fleshy part at various volumes. This clearly shows that a project file exist and the .wavs, albeit lossless, were still rendered from the project file.
This is similar to 3d rendering to a PNG image from a .MAX file (not saying Nexuiz has any of this). I can't open .MAX files either, but hate it or love it, it's still the undeniable source of the PNG image. You can't make variations of the 3d rendering without the said source file; you can only manipulate the picture.
Same for OGG renderings of songs - you can't alter the notations of a song without its project file. (one of the reasons why I encourage tracker music instead of OGGs only back at the OA forums)

[Alien]

So I had no use of your source, because I don't have 3dmax or any other app which can output max. That said I can create stupid app called wagobe garbashop and sell it 10000$ and give my all sources at garbashop format. These aren't sources cause they limit the user choice. And because nobody would be able to buy garbashop, sources would be essentialy closed.

[[-z-]]

Holy crap leileilol! Are you trying to waste enough of his time so that he creates new sounds to satisfy your ego?

I feel like you won't be satisfied until he makes a video of himself creating sounds... which you'll probably question and ask for the original film for.

Unsuccessful troll is unsuccessful.

[Alien]

That's why ogg is not source cause you can't recreate original lossless format from most of oggs (lossy ones).

[leileilol]

That's why ogg is not source cause you can't recreate original lossless format from most of oggs (lossy ones).

Lossyness isn't part of the issue. Even if a cool song is in a loss-less .WAV format, you still can't change its notes because it's already rendered from a project file from whatever app they used.