More text colors

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Cause as Terence said, it's STILL svn so if he could make it better it's last chance.

And as divVerent said, this is how things break. Removing the x is just a nitpick -- I've seen players with plenty of color in their names. DivVerent's wasted too much time explaining the complications.

I'm not saying terencehill should quit on this, just don't rush it for this release.

[terencehill]

The last possibilty was ? but if div says it's not usable, for me it's ok. It gave me a reason. But at least now I'm sure that a BETTER way (since 1 char is better than one, it's not a niptick) is not practicable. Close.

The ctrl-key thing it's not a nice way coz u can't write it as text in a file.

Talking about the name, the only way to use more rgb colors on the name could be to raise up its lenght (now is 64)...
But I don't know if it's possible and, if yes, how much changes and how many bug tests it will require.
Let's see what div says

mmm... wait... I've just thought that maybe a conversion on the fly of the rgb tags in ^number (while possible) when changing the name could be a little help on this...
Just yesterday Draahkellian had to change manually 3 rgb tags with their relative value in ^num to fit 64 chars.

[Alien]

It's f&$^%#& svn, therefore it's not OFFICIAL. Things should break in svn cause it's meant for that. Or should there be svn for svn or what?

You can write ctrl+thing in a file (depends on what input os uses for entering non-keyboard (extended ascii, unicode symbols) chars). Those might be displayed as faces, arrows, card symbols or using specified notation.

[mand1nga]

It's f&$^%#& svn, therefore it's not OFFICIAL. Things should break in svn cause it's meant for that. Or should there be svn for svn or what?

You can write ctrl+thing in a file (depends on what input os uses for entering non-keyboard (extended ascii, unicode symbols) chars). Those might be displayed as faces, arrows, card symbols or using specified notation.

It seems you didn't understand the "we have a release date set" fragment on div0's post. In the meantime we can discuss how/if to make it just a little better. I'm a little interested on the possible bandwidth save, I hope to come back with some ideas later.

[esteel]

Alien: please read that post again: We are close to a release, THIS IS THE WRONG TIME to break stuff. Besides entering ^ into a config file is easy on all OSs while ctrl is potentially not!

[tundramagi]

It's f&$^%#& svn, therefore it's not OFFICIAL. Things should break in svn cause it's meant for that. Or should there be svn for svn or what?

Stop being an asshole. The devs, including Div0, are trying to put together a release. SVN needs to be tested for a few days for them to successfuly do this. Why do you need to argue with them when they're trying to make a release (and thus bring more people to our nice game with said release)?

[divVerent]

It's f&$^%#& svn, therefore it's not OFFICIAL. Things should break in svn cause it's meant for that. Or should there be svn for svn or what?

You can write ctrl+thing in a file (depends on what input os uses for entering non-keyboard (extended ascii, unicode symbols) chars). Those might be displayed as faces, arrows, card symbols or using specified notation.

Tell me how you do this in Notepad.

[divVerent]

Talking about the name, the only way to use more rgb colors on the name could be to raise up its lenght (now is 64)...
But I don't know if it's possible and, if yes, how much changes and how many bug tests it will require.

More characters would be easily possible, but then DarkPlaces client are likely to crash other Quake engine servers when connecting to them. Older DarkPlaces servers would simply cut off the name, that'd be fine, but then DarkPlaces would crash poorly written servers that the Quake community actually USES, like mvdsv.

[Alien]

It's f&$^%#& svn, therefore it's not OFFICIAL. Things should break in svn cause it's meant for that. Or should there be svn for svn or what?

You can write ctrl+thing in a file (depends on what input os uses for entering non-keyboard (extended ascii, unicode symbols) chars). Those might be displayed as faces, arrows, card symbols or using specified notation.

Tell me how you do this in Notepad.

alt+num lock numbers. Won't work with regular ones. You could use windows key in kde/gnome.

[divVerent]

That won't enter control characters (0 to 31), just "high" characters (code 128 and above).

Actually, you're falling for a lie by Microsoft

Alt-1, Alt-2, ..., Alt-31 do enter characters that LOOK like the control character signs in the VGA charset. When you save the file, they'll get converted to question marks. If you read the message when saving, you'll see why: these signs aren't actual control characters, but lookalikes from Unicode. They can be loaded back if you save as UTF-8, but DarkPlaces does not support UTF-8 as of now.

This lie is as old as Windows 3.1, though: Alt-digits... enters characters from the DOS code page, and get translated to Windows's charset. To get ACTUAL character codes, you have to prefix the number with a leading zero. E.g. Alt-010 will enter an ACTUAL line feed. However, Notepad doesn't insert these characters literally, but executes their associated commands. E.g. Alt-01 does NOTHING in Notepad, and Alt-08 deletes the last character, instead of entering a literal backspace character.