List of ideas for future CSQC driven HUDs

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Postby Alien » Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:27 pm

1.2 seconds and more damage than nex does not sound weak either.
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Postby [-z-] » Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:13 pm

divVerent wrote:THIS HUD LOOKS TOTALLY AWFUL.


I just provided a good 20+ hours worth of work on a PSD under the GPL and you complain about the font. Do whatever you want to it. Like a font change is hard?

The font wasn't the focus on this skin, the skin is not completed. I don't have time to continue work on it right now.

Maybe you can come off as less of an asshole in the future.

Thanks.



By the way... this PSD requires photoshop for the blending options and it's nice to have the folder sorting for layers.
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Postby GreEn`mArine » Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:36 pm

Thanks for the PSD, -z-

And from the screenshots victim showed me, he has gotten large parts of the CSQC hud working (with your graphics) already.
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Postby divVerent » Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:54 pm

[-z-] wrote:
divVerent wrote:THIS HUD LOOKS TOTALLY AWFUL.


I just provided a good 20+ hours worth of work on a PSD under the GPL and you complain about the font. Do whatever you want to it. Like a font change is hard?


Indeed is, given that you made the impression that you wanted this ugly font in Nexuiz. I absolutely hate Courier.

As I said. The other stuff sure is nice, but this font really tears it down.

Oh, and I can put your argument the other way round. You worked 20 hours on this, and didn't even notice this awful font.
1. Open Notepad
2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
3. Save
4. Open the file in Notepad again

You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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Postby [-z-] » Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:00 pm

It's not that I "didn't notice" it's a fixed-width font AS YOU REQUESTED. Because you didn't want to RECODE THE CURRENT FONT PARSER. So it's a PLACE HOLDER.

Think you can address me without attacking me or my work? You're unhappy when I theorize because it makes you feel like I'm forcing you to do more work but you're still unhappy when I submit something of substance.

I'm trying to work with you but no matter what I do you try and find a way to tell me I'm not good enough. As a developer (one who's just gone through hell and back) I'd imagine you'd be more empathetic but rather you try and knock me down when I'm trying to help the game in areas I can.

I don't find that motivating.
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Postby Alien » Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:01 pm

Ffs, what the hell is going on? Such a harsh discussion about a font. It's not the font issue, but the main layout thing. Fonts could be made to change at user preference (so there won't be I like that and I like that and ... ). The question is whether people like such layout or not (until it could be arranged according to user preference as well).

BTW, talking about fonts I have a large monospaced fonts collection. If somebody is interested, I could post a zip here (not all a GPL'ed or free). The best one for me is Terminus (this is GPL'ed). It's really great font. Using it in all text editors, IDE''s where I program. Artwiz smoothansi font would look nice in Nexuiz too.

Personally, I'm more concerned about usability of a HUD more than aesthetical pleasure. Having HUD providing essential information, imo, is more important for most of the players.
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Postby divVerent » Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:19 am

[-z-] wrote:It's not that I "didn't notice" it's a fixed-width font AS YOU REQUESTED. Because you didn't want to RECODE THE CURRENT FONT PARSER. So it's a PLACE HOLDER.


First of all, Courier isn't the only fixed width font out there. It actually is the worst fixed width font ever. There's also Bitstream Vera Sans Mono, Terminus, and about a million other fixed width fonts. They don't all look like a freaking typewriter.

But...

WTF?

Now you're telling lies.

For how long does Nexuiz now ALREADY use a variable width font in the
scoreboard[1]? Have you been asleep[2] all the time?

Either that, or must be a total retard.

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http://emptyset.endoftheinternet.org/~r ... 338665.jpg

[1]: July 10, 2008
[2]: or smoking pot, or, as you are calling it, "prepping your mind"
1. Open Notepad
2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
3. Save
4. Open the file in Notepad again

You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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Postby divVerent » Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:25 am

[-z-] wrote:I'm trying to work with you but no matter what I do you try and find a way to tell me I'm not good enough. As a developer (one who's just gone through hell and back) I'd imagine you'd be more empathetic but rather you try and knock me down when I'm trying to help the game in areas I can.


You forgot to mention that it was YOU who put me through hell.

And I do not forget that you did SOMETHING for Nexuiz. If you hadn't made the website, you'd have a permanent ban from the forums since quite some months now. Only the fact that you did make it did make me NOT ban you in the CTF thread.
1. Open Notepad
2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
3. Save
4. Open the file in Notepad again

You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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Postby C.Brutail » Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:20 am

For the project's sake,for the friendship,for everything that is important for us in this game,please,could you two stop arguing?
COULD YOU PLEASE FORGIVE EACHOTHER,GO ALONG NICELY LIKE CIVILISED,MATURE PEOPLE?
Rudolf,Tyler... please?
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Postby SavageX » Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:48 am

I do recommend trying to not get mad at each other. It's a mockup, it for sure has some valuable input for discussion to offer, so let's all be calm and discuss what's good and what's not. There's no need or purpose for yelling.

The font (which can/will be swapped anyway) apparently isn't everybody's darling, so what about the layout?
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