Different gibs and blood for every character species

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Postby Fisume! » Sun May 10, 2009 8:11 am

Good job.
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Postby ai » Sun May 10, 2009 10:25 am

I'm still not sold on the robot gibs.
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Postby paperclips » Sun May 10, 2009 11:53 am

Nice! :)

However, I don't know about the oil stuff...
Should it be black oil? Not some "artificial-protein-resequenced-liquidly-stuff" ?
Sure, oil - black, leads thinking to big dirty engines grease industrial etc.

But this is a lean high tech efficient synthetic robot/organism killer performing their objective, to deliver death mayhem and fear and of course serve as the forefront weapon platform for bots ruling the universe.

White maybe? Milk/white meat (proteins) a more "synt organic" look, more mad scientist, "I want to be god and powerfull!" *makes high tech abomination*
Scifi culture usually(?) describes this as "white stuff", im thinking of movies such as Alien and Ghost in the shell (Just from the top of my head).
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Postby Morphed » Sun May 10, 2009 1:02 pm

you are right paperclips, but white blood reminds me more android blood than robot stuff
but dont be sad, originally they planned gears, bolts and springs as robot from the future gibs so black oil problem is not that big in such perspective ;)
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Postby MirceaKitsune » Sun May 10, 2009 1:02 pm

Patch updated by MrBougo. Skin vs. model issue fixed, characters can have different species on the same player model. Improved other things as well and restored compatibility with older versions (if anyone added this to their server yesterday please use the new patch, the older one made effects not work with non-patched clients).
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Postby tundramagi » Sun May 10, 2009 3:15 pm

So, guys, are you going to add my tech gibs for the robot, or because they are made by me are you rejecting them (this is what I heard) because you don't like the fact that I'm opposed to women's rights and infavor of men's liberty.

I have added an addendum to my GPL release of these gibs that I do not require credit.
Furthermore, I have also released the gibs aswell as any other models I've made to divverent as public domain so he can then GPL them himself and thusly avoid the credit requirement for those who do not believe in addendums.

This should satisfy the stated reason why my gears and such (which, no matter how you make them (or by who they are made), will look the same) "could not" be added (you didn't want nexuiz to be associated with me... I never required credit for things I contributed to begin with, I stated this 3 or more months ago)

All the gears, the nuts and bolts, the capacitors, springs, and twisted metal are exported to md3s and come with source.
They all have textures, though you can easily copy some other texture over them (say if you want the gears etc to be more black.)
The more variety of tech gibs the better: they can even be used in maps as mechanical pieces, and robots have a ton of diffrent items in them.

https://cat2.optus.nu/nexuizserv/m_nutsandboltszip.pk3
https://cat2.optus.nu/nexuizserv/m_twistedmetalzip.pk3

https://cat2.optus.nu/cat2/nutsandboltsss.png
https://cat2.optus.nu/cat2/twistedmetalss.png

All that would remain is personal animosity towards me flowing from people I've barely ever spoken to.

Morphed wrote:originally they planned gears, bolts and springs as robot from the future gibs so black oil problem is not that big in such perspective ;)


When did this plan change? Oh, you hate me, I made the gears (both spur, helical, and herringbone), bolts, springs, pnumatic ram, capacitors, etc... so that's when it changed.

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Morph: you can only fly by wire so far, at the end of that wire you atleast need a solenoid.

White would be excellent for robots: it would be like white lithium grease.

Some oil is also dark dark yellow.

The robo torso would look better with a few gears and pnumatic rams and such scattered around it, maybe some nuts/bolts falling out whenever the robo player gets shot.

https://cat2.optus.nu/nexuizserv/m_nutsandboltszip.pk3
https://cat2.optus.nu/nexuizserv/m_twistedmetalzip.pk3

All have been allready exported to md3.

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Postby Flying Steel » Sun May 10, 2009 6:28 pm

I have to agree that a white or light yellow fluid would makes sense as somekind of silicone fluid for robot "blood", since different silicones can be used as either hydraulic fluid or coolant, and for such a robust or energetic machine as a combat robot, neither of those seems unreasonable.

On a related note, it looks like alien blood could be a number of colors, some alot more likely than others depending in large part on if a particular species uses oxygen as its oxidizer and not something more unusual like Fluorine, Chlorine or Sulfur. And then you might also have photosynthetic pigments mixed in there, whose colors can be green, yellow, orange or red depending on the star class of the homeworld of the species in question.

Some interesting links on the subject:

http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/B/blood.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_biochemistry
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Postby ai » Mon May 11, 2009 5:10 am

When I pictured the blood of a robot I always had some glowing goo kind of thing in mind. Much like the color of the glowing sticks on current gibs. Like it was some kind of futuristic coolant.
Besides, current glowing sticks and same kind of glowing blood would make sense IMO. The only thing which would need to be taken into account is how much of a glow it gives out. Not too much to disturb the players but enough to give away this 'cool' factor.
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Postby Taiyo.uk » Mon May 11, 2009 12:46 pm

Woohoo! Gib-painting in more than one colour! Nexuiz art challenge anyone? :twisted:

I guess robots would spill hydraulic fluid and lubricating oil, and spray sparks and flames when they get gibbed. Hydraulic fluids are usually light oils, and frequently have a red tint much like red diesel.
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Postby MirceaKitsune » Mon May 11, 2009 1:17 pm

For the time being I believe the current gibs and bloods are good. Maybe more can be added later if anything... right now its probably most important to make sure it works as it is without any issues and can get committed :)
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