Should Nexuiz come packed with NetRadiant as well?

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How do you believe Nexuiz should be distributed from now one?

Just the game, without NetRadiant nor any terrain generator utility.
11
65%
Just the game and NetRadiant, but without any terrain generatur utility.
0
No votes
The game, NetRadiant and a terrain generator utility.
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35%
 
Total votes : 17

Postby divVerent » Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:22 am

No, still against bundling it.

But, why not simply directly link to the current version of it from the Nexuiz download page? That's almost as readily available, and can be easily formulated so that people expect what they get :P
1. Open Notepad
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Postby tundramagi » Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:26 am

Well.. it needs to be real simple for them to set up: like they just unzip it and drop it in their nexuiz dir or something like that. Screenshots will be needed, maybe a video aswell. A tax writeoff would also encourage success in installation: in these troubling times people need all the help they can get. An investment in the future.
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Postby divVerent » Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:39 am

That's how you install NetRadiant. Download zip, unzip, run. Just like Nexuiz.
1. Open Notepad
2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
3. Save
4. Open the file in Notepad again

You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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Postby tundramagi » Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:16 pm

divVerent wrote:That's how you install NetRadiant. Download zip, unzip, run. Just like Nexuiz.


Yes but you have to set the path to nexuiz. This will surely be too difficult. "What's a path" "where the fuck is nexuiz" etc. In unreal all you needed to do was click on the editor icon and you were good.
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Postby MirceaKitsune » Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:24 pm

I agree with tundramagi on most things. UnrealED 2.0 was much buggier then NetRadiant is now. I got tons of crashes when I used to map in UT99 which was driving me nuts (even got crashes in UT2004's editor though less then UT99's). With the Radiant series I hardly got like 4 crashes in many months of mapping which to me seemed incredible. I also consider Radiant one of the best map editors out there... it's very well arranged and easy to use.

And true, I think the fact the UT series always had UnrealED with them made them as they are today. For instance there are tons of UT maps all over the net for all UT series, while for Nexuiz there's only a small bunch on maps.nexuizninjaz.com which I think is sad we don't have more. If Radiant would be placed right into the game for everyone I think we could soon reach a greater performance on maps as well, and this would also help with raising the popularity of the game and having more high quality maps.

Setting a link for an external download location... I don't see the point to that myself. Some like mapping on laptops where they don't always have internet, and this would kinda create a "download this download that" dependency. I always thought it's best to have things as open and easy as possible, and imho just including it would make things much easier. My personal belief is that the NetRadiant folder would be best placed directly in the main Nexuiz folder next to nexuiz.exe, or if not maybe in a Tools folder where later on we could also include other small tools over the years :)

Also it could be mentioned in the package that NetRadiant is a separate product so bug reports should not be filed to Nexuiz about it (possibly include a link in netRadiant to its own bug reporting area so people easily know the difference). Hope this will be possible sometime in the future at least.
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Postby divVerent » Thu Feb 26, 2009 5:10 pm

Also, I don't know how to make netradiant NOT ask for that path
1. Open Notepad
2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
3. Save
4. Open the file in Notepad again

You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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Postby Dp24014 » Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:45 am

I think it should have a playback mode like halo 3
with videos screenshots and every thing
when you take a screen shot you get a download jpeg option
ect
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Postby tundramagi » Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:38 am

Dp24014 wrote:I think it should have a playback mode like halo 3
with videos screenshots and every thing
when you take a screen shot you get a download jpeg option
ect


And seamless planetary flight.
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Postby sYm » Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:53 am

divVerent wrote:No, still against bundling it.

But, why not simply directly link to the current version of it from the Nexuiz download page? That's almost as readily available, and can be easily formulated so that people expect what they get :P


I agree on that, is a fine, easy and simple solution.
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