Hard-coded symbol to label bots?

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Hard-coded symbol to label bots?

Postby Dokujisan » Tue May 12, 2009 6:32 pm

Currently, the game defaults to using [BOT] to show which players are bots.
That tag is also configurable using a cvar.

I would like to suggest using a symbol which would be reserved for only bots, similar to the symbols that players can insert into their names. Ideally, this would be special symbol that players can't mimic or decide to use as their clan tag, and this symbol which would show which players are bots.

Thoughts?
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Postby morfar » Tue May 12, 2009 7:02 pm

Bots is the only players that can have 0 ping. But that doesn't help much. As the in-game ping on scoreboard is uselessy inaccurate :P If the scoreboard actually showed true ping it would fix this.
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Postby divVerent » Tue May 12, 2009 7:32 pm

On the scoreboards, bots reliably show up as N/A ping.
1. Open Notepad
2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
3. Save
4. Open the file in Notepad again

You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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Postby Sepelio » Tue May 12, 2009 8:05 pm

Well, why not just use a little nexuiz symbol to indicate the bots are game controlled? I assume there isnt a nexuiz symbol to be used by players anywhere in game currently...
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Postby mand1nga » Tue May 12, 2009 11:53 pm

Sepelio wrote:Well, why not just use a little nexuiz symbol to indicate the bots are game controlled? I assume there isnt a nexuiz symbol to be used by players anywhere in game currently...


There are two cvars to set prefix/suffix strings to bot names, that way you can identify them.

And bots don't have exactly 0 lag, they have a sort of lag emulation, small random delays limiting their actions. No point in showing this artificial lag on the scoreboard imho.

EDIT: Ok now I've read the whole thread :) .. About the idea: it could be done, but instead of a special char I would rather a custom small graphic, not the Nexuiz logo. However I don't see this as a big issue, as I don't think that most popular servers are mixing (many) bots and players. Of course I can be wrong about this assumption, because I'm almost not playing nowadays.

... And you Mirio, change your clan name NOW :P
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Postby Mirio » Wed May 13, 2009 4:53 am

mand1nga wrote:... And you Mirio, change your clan name NOW :P

but thats the idea behind [BOT] that we used the same tag once.. :cry: :P usually bots disappear if enough players join the game :) and i think there is a difference between us and a bot ( or not? :< )
Let them have a little symbol ( 'BOT' ) over their heads. Like the chat symbol!
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Postby [-z-] » Wed May 13, 2009 11:57 am

Mirio wrote:Let them have a little symbol ( 'BOT' ) over their heads. Like the chat symbol!


exactly
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Postby terencehill » Wed May 13, 2009 5:28 pm

Mirio wrote:Let them have a little symbol ( 'BOT' ) over their heads. Like the chat symbol!

It's a good idea.
There is one ctf server (don't remeber which one) that stupidly runs with the bots without any prefix or suffix, and this may lead to noobs or distracted players to believe they are playing with humans. (Yes it happened to me too once :P :D )
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Postby divVerent » Wed May 13, 2009 6:14 pm

Why not use a special player model for bots?
1. Open Notepad
2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
3. Save
4. Open the file in Notepad again

You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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Postby Mirio » Wed May 13, 2009 6:53 pm

divVerent wrote:Why not use a special player model for bots?

pb box :D

jk, but its a good idea :D
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