BOT development kit?

[Cinquero]

Is there something I can use to play around with BOT AI? Is there an easy way to create a bot that connects as a client to a server?

[KadaverJack]

Is there something I can use to play around with BOT AI?

Unzip Nexuiz/sources/gamesource20060614.zip. The bot code is together with the rest of the server's gamecode in qcsrc/server (mainly in bots.qc, havocbot.qc & havocbot_roles.qc). If you just want to change how bots behave in different gamemodes (or add a new gamemode), havocbot_roles.qc is the best place to start...
To compile the stuff, you'll need fteqcc (a download link is in the FAQ, just put the binary in qcsrc/server and run it).

Is there an easy way to create a bot that connects as a client to a server?

No. Bots are part of the server code. To add "standalone" bot you would need to write an app that connects to a Nexuiz server and emulates a player first. And adding bots that way is more difficult than integrating them into the server.

[Noxin911]

No. Bots are part of the server code. To add "standalone" bot you would need to write an app that connects to a Nexuiz server and emulates a player first. And adding bots that way is more difficult than integrating them into the server.

I want to write a standalone bot ... is there any documentation about the communication between server and client or could anybody tell me where in the code i could find this ?
Or has anyone write an example for a connection ... a client how connect make 3 steps and disconnect...

thanks nox

PS: i know my english isn't so good ... sorry for this

[PHREAK]

May I just ask why you would like to do this?
Call me paranoid but there's only one reason to code a standalone AI that I know of.
I'm sure people can figure out what that is.
Other then that, I can't see the benefit of it nor a purpose.

Sorry if I got this wrong.

[KadaverJack]

I want to write a standalone bot ... is there any documentation about the communication between server and client or could anybody tell me where in the code i could find this ?
Or has anyone write an example for a connection ... a client how connect make 3 steps and disconnect...

I don't know of any documentation on the network protocol nor such a sample client... If you know C well enough: the engine sources are included in Nexuiz/sources/enginesource*.zip (most recent sources are available from SVN at svn://svn.icculus.org/twilight/trunk/darkplaces/). To my knowledge all networking is done in netconn.c. (demos might also help you to understand the protocol, as they are basically package dumps of the client <-> server communication)
But for such a bot to function, your client also needs to be able to read the map format.

Call me paranoid but there's only one reason to code a standalone AI that I know of.
I'm sure people can figure out what that is.

Cheating that way would be rather difficult, there are much easier approaches so i don't think this is about cheating...

[Noxin911]

May I just ask why you would like to do this?
Call me paranoid but there's only one reason to code a standalone AI that I know of.
I'm sure people can figure out what that is.
Other then that, I can't see the benefit of it nor a purpose.

Sorry if I got this wrong.

No im not interessting in cheating ... i write my diploma thesis and my prof want an standalone bot to test the new AI .... i also take a look in Quake 3 and OpenArena but the documentation isnt very well and so i hope this game her could be better.

I don't know of any documentation on the network protocol nor such a sample client...

this sounds not soo good by i will take a look inside the code

thanks for help ... if anybody knwos more let me know it

[divVerent]

Seriously, does it need to be standalone or just a bot client?

If it just needs to be a client, you could take out the CRC check of the CSQC support in the engine and try to write your bot client using that.

[Noxin911]

Seriously, does it need to be standalone or just a bot client?

we want running the bot at an other computer and so it think a bot client is ok.
could you tell me what you mean with

you could take out the CRC check of the CSQC support in the engine

thanks a lot

[KadaverJack]

we want running the bot at an other computer and so it think a bot client is ok.
could you tell me what you mean with

you could take out the CRC check of the CSQC support in the engine

csqc stands for client side quake c (quake c is the language the gamecode is written in). Think of it as some sort of scripting the engine. Basically you could use the engine as it is and implement the bot ai without having to reengineer the network protocol or loading the maps (since the engine will do all that for you). You could even watch your bot
See http://wiki.quakesrc.org/index.php/EXT_CSQC for more info on csqc.

[Noxin911]

thanks

okay i start reading