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[tZork]

The new version of hydronex (b3) might work very very well for 3on3. In the map thread i also suggested a few ideas that could be tested for the map.
Maybe its worth to test a older version of control factor. I think the older version with less rooms to hide might work out better for 3on3. Also fighting for the nexgun would get more important then and raise team work.. Hehe maybe tzork wants to create a map 'smallfactor'

Maybe, but its not very likely. I dont like the idea of a special ver or version of a map for the ladder. If you gunna use this map plz use it as is, latest version or dont use it at all. You are free to ignore this wish ofc. I will consider making a simpler version, but in that case it will be the "only" version not a halfbreed confusingly similar but amputated version of the original

Dusty might work well after a rework of the spawn points. the non-symetric layout is not a problem but the missing location info and the (currently) bad spawn points are

Well, I think that the nonsymmetrical layout of Dusty IS a problem, it won't offer equal chances, and to be honest, the blue base is harder to get than the red one, as everything is narrowed down there and it has many crates protecting the fresh spawned players who can then defent the flag again. The red base is more open once you get close to the red flag

Everyone has a base on dusty they feel is easier to defend or attack/attack from. And the prefered base are diffrent from person to person. This is interesting imo, one very easy way to make unsymetrical maps 100% fair to play would be so play each map atleast twice, switching sides.

[C.Brutail]

WIP cb_ctf4, I hope itt will be playable. The map will be similar to so famous quake2 maps, somewhata mixture of the best of them. I don't realy have a name yet, suggestions are welcomed

[ai]

Everyone has a base on dusty they feel is easier to defend or attack/attack from. And the prefered base are diffrent from person to person. This is interesting imo, one very easy way to make unsymetrical maps 100% fair to play would be so play each map atleast twice, switching sides.

If switching sides would have to be done on unsymetrical maps so would be needed for symetrical maps as otherwise playing certain maps twice would be unfair and I also don't think people would like to play that long (for example if one CTF match is 20 min which equals +40 min with warmup and everything)

But as Green and I said, the current Dusty is too unbalanced, sure the spawnpoints might be a problem but it's not the only problem as mentioned. For instance, you can quickly get into the red base grab the flag and laser in the air behind that big wall which if you don't have any teammates standing already there to frag the carrier he will get away easily. In the blue base you have to run as you can't laser anywhere and you can intercept that carrier from two (even four if you're very picky) ways, no matter which way he takes. This is not possible in the red base.

[cortez]

I agree with esteel that the problem on dusty are the spawn points.
The unsymetrical on the map is not that bad. I think it the same to defend both bases.

Controllfactor
i think it not would be a run and hide match when one team only the other team can catch the flag.


Capture city:
there i think we should test it because maybe the size would be a problem.

HydronexCTFb3:
we should test it

[Diomedes]

I like Controlfactorv2r3 but the the map is too big for 3on3s. I think, if the following things would be removed the map would be fit for a 3on3 ladder.

1.

The rooms near the teleporters are useless for a good CTF match, but the flag carrier can hide in this little room very well.

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/3025/nexuiz000191dg2.th.jpg
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4062/nexuiz000192oh5.th.jpg
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2128/nexuiz000193uo7.th.jpg

2.

The same.

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/4702/nexuiz000194oc9.th.jpg
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/9405/nexuiz000195ut3.th.jpg

3.

I think, this area should be closed because its too simple to hide there.

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8826/nexuiz000196yh9.th.jpg
http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/9016/nexuiz000197oo6.th.jpg
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/6618/nexuiz000198wp3.th.jpg

[k0jak]

When i played UT iCTF there was/is a map called CTF-Gauntlet.
which was also not symettrical.

It was a great map, but because of this, each team played 10 minutes on each colour side, to make it fair, or if it was 2x Gauntlet to be played, 20 minutes each side.

[ai]

Heh, too bad Dusty is not such a map

[cortez]

C.Brutail wrote:
WIP cb_ctf4, I hope itt will be playable. The map will be similar to so famous quake2 maps, somewhata mixture of the best of them. I don't realy have a name yet, suggestions are welcomed

When do you think the map is playable publish the map!
Then we can say its playable or not because the screenshot not say much.

ai wrote:
Heh, too bad Dusty is not such a map

Let green defend the flag and you see its the same

Diomedes wrote:
I like Controlfactorv2r3 but the the map is too big for 3on3s. I think, if the following things would be removed the map would be fit for a 3on3 ladder.

I agree,no one found you in the little room under the water,I test it
If tZork remove this 3 thing that map would fit well in the 3on3 CTF Ladder(Controlfactorv2r3 is a good map but simple to hide and when one player got the flag and hide. That will be no CTF that will be a Run´n`hide and that want no one. tZork can you change that things for a spezial version on the 3on3 Ladder?).

[tZork]

C.Brutail wrote:
WIP cb_ctf4, I hope itt will be playable. The map will be similar to so famous quake2 maps, somewhata mixture of the best of them. I don't realy have a name yet, suggestions are welcomed

When do you think the map is playable publish the map!
Then we can say its playable or not because the screenshot not say much.

ai wrote:
Heh, too bad Dusty is not such a map

Let green defend the flag and you see its the same

Diomedes wrote:
I like Controlfactorv2r3 but the the map is too big for 3on3s. I think, if the following things would be removed the map would be fit for a 3on3 ladder.

I agree,no one found you in the little room under the water,I test it
If tZork remove this 3 thing that map would fit well in the 3on3 CTF Ladder(Controlfactorv2r3 is a good map but simple to hide and when one player got the flag and hide. That will be no CTF that will be a Run´n`hide and that want no one. tZork can you change that things for a spezial version on the 3on3 Ladder?).

Look a few posts up..

The new version of hydronex (b3) might work very very well for 3on3. In the map thread i also suggested a few ideas that could be tested for the map.
Maybe its worth to test a older version of control factor. I think the older version with less rooms to hide might work out better for 3on3. Also fighting for the nexgun would get more important then and raise team work.. Hehe maybe tzork wants to create a map 'smallfactor'

Maybe, but its not very likely. I dont like the idea of a special ver or version of a map for the ladder. If you gunna use this map plz use it as is, latest version or dont use it at all. You are free to ignore this wish ofc. I will consider making a simpler version, but in that case it will be the "only" version not a halfbreed confusingly similar but amputated version of the original

[ai]

ai wrote:
Heh, too bad Dusty is not such a map

Let green defend the flag and you see its the same

Yeah I know, it will be the same Speaking unbalanced map And not to brag I think it's safe to say I'm better than Green. At least was before holidays