MAX_MAP_BRUSHES with .ase models

[Clueless Newbie]

I'm working on a map made mainly with .ase models. So far, everything the player sees is an .ase model. The brushes are just caulks and a bounding box for the whole thing.

The .ases had to be compiled at 4 or 6 subdivisions (necessary to make the edges fit together).

But when I compile the map, I get the MAX_MAP_BRUSHES error. Is there a way to avoid this error other than by increasing the subdivision sizes of the .ases?

[Rad Ished]

How spooky , i had this error today also , then i googled it and ended up here
Hi clueless

[sev]

Are you using autoclipping (spawnflags 2 or 6)?
I'm not sure, but the clips could be regarded as brushes, and with very complicated models you would get a LOT of them.

[Clueless Newbie]

How spooky , i had this error today also , then i googled it and ended up here

That's actually a very bad sign.. B/

Hi clueless

Hello. B)

[Clueless Newbie]

Are you using autoclipping (spawnflags 2 or 6)?
I'm not sure, but the clips could be regarded as brushes, and with very complicated models you would get a LOT of them.

Yes; spawnflags 6. I was under the impression I would have to do that to make .ase models solid. They're useless to me otherwise.

[sev]

Yes; spawnflags 6. I was under the impression I would have to do that to make .ase models solid. They're useless to me otherwise.

With smaller or complicated stuff, it often works to just put simple brushes with (player or weapon) clips over the model (and keep the model non-solid of course).

[Clueless Newbie]

With smaller or complicated stuff, it often works to just put simple brushes with (player or weapon) clips over the model (and keep the model non-solid of course).

Yeah. I definitely plan on using .ases for lamps and trees and stuff like that. However, I was trying to make a level that was made entirely of .ase units — curved corridor section, straight section, etc. That doesn't work, for various reasons. Still, now I know how to make .ases. B)

[tZork]

All i can come to think of is that the clipped geometry is actually to complicated by q3map2's standard. One possible solution would be to make a much less dense mesh, part of the same model textures with a invisible, autoclipped shader. and let the "main mesh" be non autoclipped. Not sure if it would help, but perhaps worth trying.

[Taiyo.uk]

Autoclipping essentially makes a clip brush for every face in the model. It's usually a good idea to leave the model non-clipped and manually create clip brushes to avoid excessive brushcounts. Also, depending on the model geometry, autoclipping can cause "nuisance clipping" such as sticky movement and places where players can become trapped.